iPhone SDK - Macmod LIVE Episode 16

Posted by: BigO

iPhone SDK - Macmod LIVE Episode 16 - 03/14/08 07:32 PM

This is the offical forum post for Macmod LIVE episode 16. Today Big-O, Josh, and Antonio talk about the newly released iPhone SDK.

Share your thoughts about the topic here, and go here to download the episode:

http://www.macmod.com/content/view/1253/219/
Posted by: krusher117

Re: iPhone SDK - Macmod LIVE Episode 16 - 03/14/08 11:25 PM

Taken from http://www.gearlive.com/news/article/psp_vs_ds_04011107/

Cost:
PSP - $250 (includes 32MB memory stick, headphones, AC adapter, carrying case, demo disc and wrist strap
DS - $150 (includes stylus, AC adapter and wrist strap)

Size:
PSP - 6.7 x .9 x 2.9 inches
DS - 5.9 x 1.1 x 3.3 (6 when open) inches

Weight:
PSP - .62 lbs
DS - .61 lbs

Screen Size:
PSP - 4.3 inch LCD - 16:9 ratio
DS - Two 3 inch LCDs - 4:3 ratio

Screen Resolution:
PSP - 480 x 272 pixels
DS - 256 x 192 pixels

Colors:
PSP - 16,800,000
DS - 260,000

Memory:
PSP - 32MB - 4MB DRAM (plus memory stick)
DS - 4MB

Media:
PSP - UMD - 1.8GB capacity
DS - Cartridge 1 gigabit (Note: 8 gigabits = 1 gigabyte, so PSP UMD discs hold about 14 x as much as the DS cartdridge)

Wireless:
PSP - IEEE 802.11b (Wi-Fi) up to 11Mbps - 16 players
DS - IEEE 802.11 (Wi-Fi) up to 2Mbps - 16 players

Battery Life:
PSP - 2.5 hours watching UMD movies - 3-6 hours playing games (depending on brightness and multiplayer function)
DS - 6-10 hours playing games

Features:
PSP - USB 2.0 port - Analog stick - JPG pics - MP3 music - MPEG4 video
DS - Touchscreen - Compatible with Game Boy Advance - Built in microphone

These are the facts. You decide.
Posted by: krusher117

Re: iPhone SDK - Macmod LIVE Episode 16 - 03/14/08 11:28 PM

shocked shocked shocked shocked
And also for the record, the iphone has a significantly faster processor than either the DS or the PSP. And from the looks of monkeyball it can render 3D quite well.
Posted by: BigO

Re: iPhone SDK - Macmod LIVE Episode 16 - 03/14/08 11:54 PM

I'm going to repost those stats, adding CPU speed, and also including the iPhone stats in the list:

Cost:
PSP - $250 (includes 32MB memory stick, headphones, AC adapter, carrying case, demo disc and wrist strap
DS - $150 (includes stylus, AC adapter and wrist strap)
iPhone - $399 (iPod touch from $299)

Size:
PSP - 6.7 x .9 x 2.9 inches
DS - 5.9 x 1.1 x 3.3 (6 when open) inches
iPhone - 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches

Weight:
PSP - .62 lbs
DS - .61 lbs
iPhone - .3 lbs

Screen Size:
PSP - 4.3 inch LCD - 16:9 ratio
DS - Two 3 inch LCDs - 4:3 ratio
iPhone - 3.5 inch LCD - 1.5:1 ratio

Screen Resolution:
PSP - 480 x 272 pixels
DS - 256 x 192 pixels
iPhone - 480 x 320 pixels

Colors:
PSP - 16,800,000
DS - 260,000
iPhone - 16,000,000

Memory:
PSP - 32MB - 4MB DRAM (plus memory stick)
DS - 4MB
iPhone - 128MB (this isn't published by Apple, so this was a calculation from a developer I found)

Media:
PSP - UMD - 1.8GB capacity
DS - Cartridge 1 gigabit (Note: 8 gigabits = 1 gigabyte, so PSP UMD discs hold about 14 x as much as the DS cartdridge)
iPhone - 8GB or 16GB

Wireless:
PSP - IEEE 802.11b (Wi-Fi) up to 11Mbps - 16 players
DS - IEEE 802.11 (Wi-Fi) up to 2Mbps - 16 players
iPhone - IEEE 802.11b/g (Wi-Fi) up to 54Mbps

Battery Life:
PSP - 2.5 hours watching UMD movies - 3-6 hours playing games (depending on brightness and multiplayer function)
DS - 6-10 hours playing games
iPhone - 7 hours of video, who knows what games would take.

Features:
PSP - USB 2.0 port - Analog stick - JPG pics - MP3 music - MPEG4 video
DS - Touchscreen - Compatible with Game Boy Advance - Built in microphone
iPhone - it's a friggin iPhone!


Well, the iPhone seems to me to be better in almost every respect. This just might be the best portable gaming system to ever hit the market!
Posted by: krusher117

Re: iPhone SDK - Macmod LIVE Episode 16 - 03/15/08 12:30 AM

do you have the exact processor speeds? i saw them recently but couldn't dig them up again. i know the iPhone was the fastest by far.
Posted by: BigO

Re: iPhone SDK - Macmod LIVE Episode 16 - 03/15/08 04:51 AM

Originally Posted By: "krusher117"
do you have the exact processor speeds? i saw them recently but couldn't dig them up again. i know the iPhone was the fastest by far.


Oops. I meant to include that.

PSP - 333 MHz
DS - 67 MHz
iPhone - 620MHz

I'm pretty sure they all have ARM processors.
Posted by: krusher117

Re: iPhone SDK - Macmod LIVE Episode 16 - 03/15/08 04:17 PM

two things blow my mind....the fact that Nintendo can create such great games on the DS with such a slow processor (i love my DS) and that the iPhone has such a powerfull processor.

Definitely Apple had their eye on the PDA market all along when they created this phone.
Posted by: Waragainstsleep

Re: iPhone SDK - Macmod LIVE Episode 16 - 03/15/08 08:30 PM

I believe the DS has a second 33MHz processor. Oddly sysinfo reports my iPhone CPU at 412MHz.
Posted by: BigO

Re: iPhone SDK - Macmod LIVE Episode 16 - 03/15/08 08:35 PM

Originally Posted By: "Waragainstsleep"
I believe the DS has a second 33MHz processor. Oddly sysinfo reports my iPhone CPU at 412MHz.


Apparently the iPhone CPU has a variable clock speed depending on what's going on. Some apps run it faster than others. That's one way that they try to save battery life on a portable device.
Posted by: rockymeet

Re: iPhone SDK - Macmod LIVE Episode 16 - 05/30/09 12:56 PM

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