Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline

Posted by: steveg

Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/04/14 07:14 AM

Yesterday Ed Schultz did a report on a group of Native Americans who are attempting to halt the Keystone XL Pipeline, and I was reminded that for these people, the Earth — the land, the air, the water, the wildlife — are all integral elements of their religion. So I'm thinking that if Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood were to prevail in their case before the SCOTUS, then dammit, Native Americans should bring the same case. They should claim that the allowing the KXLP to be built is violates their religious freedom.

I'm just sayin'...
Posted by: Lea

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/04/14 06:26 PM


Sigh.

There's no end to this this rabbit hole.

Please accept my apologies for almost derailing your intentions, sir.

Close call. See ya at the next Stop Sign? :-)

AllMyLoveLea


Posted by: DLC

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/04/14 08:10 PM

OMG !! yep doan let religion get in the way of making $$$$ !! tongue

bunch of "hobby-rollers" ! wink
Posted by: steveg

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/05/14 04:51 AM

Their hypocrisy is deeper than their investments. The insurance plan they offered employees before the ACA covered contraception. I hope the SCOTUS shows them the door by June. But if they give them and Conestoga a pass, I think the Sioux and Lakota and all the other tribes in the region should absolutely make the same premise a central pillar of their opposition to KXL. I'd love to see the grimaces on the faces of the right wing justices when they realize just what kind of precedent they'd have set.
Posted by: MrB

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/05/14 05:22 AM

I was discussing the prevalence of casinos in our state as there are several. Kansas has a no smoking policy in public venues. All this for health reasons of course. But in our discussion, I found out that smoking is permitted in casinos in our state. I gues when it comes to making money, health issues can be put aside. So this seems to apply to the Hobby Lobby suit as well. ,

Shame

Dave
Posted by: steveg

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/05/14 05:51 AM

In what way does that parallel the Hobby Lobby issue?
Posted by: DLC

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/05/14 05:58 AM

Originally Posted By: steveg
In what way does that parallel the Hobby Lobby issue?

Both have a smoking gun ! whistle
Posted by: steveg

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/05/14 06:40 AM

Go to your room. tongue
Posted by: DLC

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/05/14 07:23 AM

Originally Posted By: steveg
Go to your room. tongue

TOO LATE… I'm already there !! laugh
Posted by: MrB

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/06/14 07:02 AM

Well, from what I see, the state realizes the benefit of having a smoking ban on public buildings. Except where it might affect bringing in the cash. Hobby Lobby the same. They want to have their so called religious freedom except still want the money fro investments to the same

Dave
Posted by: steveg

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/06/14 07:17 AM

That doesn't hold water. There are faith-based investment opportunities that are every bit as lucrative — many even in the pharma sector. They could claim that they were unaware of war was in their investment portfolio, but that would make them look pretty careless. And financial and HR decision makers are required to review their portfolios and sign off on them. So the Mickey The Dunce excuse is a lose-lose for them.

This is pure hypocrisy propelled by a clear political agenda.
Posted by: DLC

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/06/14 10:55 AM

yeah that holds about as much water as a screen door on a submarine !! tongue
Posted by: MrB

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/06/14 04:44 PM

Well, then, I'm wrong then. They aren't willing to sacrifice their religious convictions in order to gain som financial reward. I just thought it seemed like the legislature in Kansas willing to forgo health concerns to get those gamblers in their casinos stuffing those dollars down those slots.

Dave
Posted by: DLC

Re: Hobby Lobby and KXL Pipeline - 04/06/14 04:59 PM

Originally Posted By: MrB
Well, then, I'm wrong then. They aren't willing to sacrifice their religious convictions in order to gain som financial reward. I just thought it seemed like the legislature in Kansas willing to forgo health concerns to get those gamblers in their casinos stuffing those dollars down those slots.

Dave

AS they say Dave, $$ is the root of all evil ! Most will overlook anything, including murder for it !