Pay very much attention...

Posted by: steveg

Pay very much attention... - 03/08/13 03:13 AM

To those men behind the curtain NRA.

Last night RM had a great segment demonstrating how the tobacco industry's attempt to hide behind a "grassroots" smokers' rights group failed and how, in comparison, the gun industry's attempt to hide behind the NRA is succeeding so far. So, take five, Mr. LaPierre, and let's bring a few of your pals to stage front.

http://www.smith-wesson.com
http://www.berettausa.com/
http://www.ruger.com/
http://www.colt.com/
http://www.hk-usa.com/
http://www.sigsauer.com/
http://www.remington.com/
http://www.springfield-armory.com/
http://us.glock.com/
http://www.kahr.com/
http://gunsamericacitadelinternational.com/
http://www.waltherarms.com/
http://www.auto-ordnance.com/
http://www.taurususa.com/
http://www.magnumresearch.com/
http://www.bersa.com/
http://www.fnhusa.com/
http://www.steyrarms.com/
http://www.cz-usa.com/
http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/
http://www.berettausa.com/

Fell free to let these "fine" folks know where you stand directly.
Posted by: DLC

Re: Pay very much attention... - 03/08/13 05:11 AM

Saw that segment it was "spookingly shocking" !!

Oh yeah cigarettes don't kill anyone !! sick

we have paid scientists who say so !!

The only thing that trumps $$ in politics is votes...
ONLY if they think they might lose next time will the slush / hush $$ not matter any more.
But it needs to be clear and overwhelming !

like " CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW !!??" laugh
Posted by: MacBozo

Re: Pay very much attention... - 03/08/13 06:25 PM

Nice group of bedfellows. crazy
Posted by: carp

Re: Pay very much attention... - 03/08/13 07:25 PM

Oh yeah cigarettes don't kill anyone !!

Well like the gun theory laugh its the person that owns it -- ya know guns don't kill , people do.

Which brings back my idea of taxing the shiit out of ammo ownership -> much like the gov did with cigarettes sin tax.

Believe me here a pack of cigs cost 9 bucks , 10 + in Waikiki . Make a bullet so expensive even the gang bangers won't use one.
Posted by: MrB

Re: Pay very much attention... - 03/10/13 01:43 PM

Originally Posted By: steveg
To those men behind the curtain NRA.

Last night RM had a great segment demonstrating how the tobacco industry's attempt to hide behind a "grassroots" smokers' rights group failed and how, in comparison, the gun industry's attempt to hide behind the NRA is succeeding so far. So, take five, Mr. LaPierre, and let's bring a few of your pals to stage front.



Fell free to let these "fine" folks know where you stand directly.



Took me a bit but I figured by "RM" you mean Rachel Madow. Then it makes sense what you are saying as, she has been msnbc spokesperson for the ant gun group. She is very entertaining but far from a source for correct straight forward information.

Dave
Posted by: MrB

Re: Pay very much attention... - 03/10/13 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: carp
Oh yeah cigarettes don't kill anyone !!

Well like the gun theory laugh its the person that owns it -- ya know guns don't kill , people do.

Which brings back my idea of taxing the shiit out of ammo ownership -> much like the gov did with cigarettes sin tax.

Believe me here a pack of cigs cost 9 bucks , 10 + in Waikiki . Make a bullet so expensive even the gang bangers won't use one.


You can't connect cigarets to ammo. Now you have a much better association with ammo to guns as gasoline to cars. A gun is no good without ammo as a car is no good without gas.

I would think that folks would want people to have ammo. That ishow they practice in order to be accurate and safe. Restricting ammo is like giving a person a quart of gasoline and telling him to practice driving.

People who shoot can go through a ton of ammo. I realize those not in the know might not understand but they need too. One just doesn't go to the range and go through a few rounds they can shoot hundreds.

Again, there are millions of legal gun owners and few of them harm anyone. It's not that they "need" to but they enjoy it. Like skate boarding, bird watching, drag racing, skeet shooting ( and the president is an ardent fan), like rodeo. Like any sport or activity. Like surfing. Skiing.

They gun is just like the tools they need for each of their activities

Dave
Posted by: MrB

Re: Pay very much attention... - 03/10/13 02:31 PM

Actually, thanks for the links. I had several of them but not all.

I've been looking for another handgun. I sold my Smith and my Ruger .44 Mag a few years back to by a camera.

I've been thinking of the Beretta Px4 Storm in 9mm. It has the features I like. Single/double action with decocker. Full sze. When I get my CCL I can get a compact. The Px4 storm was meant to replace the current 92fs that is the military standard carry. But a mix up in the tests they didnt choose it. But for civilians this has been a good choice.

http://www.berettausa.com/products/px4-storm-full-size-9mm/

And speaking of cameras , cameras don't take pictures, people do smile

Dave
Posted by: steveg

Re: Pay very much attention... - 03/11/13 03:18 AM

Dave, if you do buy another gun, I sure hope you don't miss your target as widely as you've missed my point.
Posted by: musicalmarv7

Re: Pay very much attention... - 03/11/13 03:41 AM

Are you kidding me one pack of cigarettes for almost $10. This is absurd.That would be a good reason to stop smoking alone.
Here in the Philippines 25 cents a pack.
Posted by: DLC

Re: Pay very much attention... - 03/11/13 02:54 PM

Quote:
Here in the Philippines 25 cents a pack.

I love the way we export our toxic materials overseas...

When China did that (lead paint in toys), we had a hissy fit !! mad
Posted by: carp

Re: Pay very much attention... - 03/11/13 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: musicalmarv7
Are you kidding me one pack of cigarettes for almost $10. This is absurd.That would be a good reason to stop smoking alone.
Here in the Philippines 25 cents a pack.


Most of that is because of the Fed and State sin tax - On military bases there are no tax on products a pack can be had for about 5 bucks.
Posted by: carp

Re: Pay very much attention... - 03/11/13 07:30 PM


You can't connect cigarets to ammo. Now you have a much better association with ammo to guns as gasoline to cars. A gun is no good without ammo as a car is no good without gas.

Exactly my point,

You can for example buy ammo to practice with at the range without paying a sin tax - However if you want to take the ammo home then you pay a sin tax. Ammo for a Saturday Night Special would be taxed less , ammo for a assault rifle would be taxed much higher.

The idea here is to prevent Wackos and gang bangers from buying 1,000 rounds of ammo.