Way to go, Congress.

Posted by: steveg

Way to go, Congress. - 02/06/13 12:23 PM

Not! Thanks again for all your hard work. All that nose picking, ass scratching, and group masturbation must be exhausting. But your non-efforts have finally yielded fruit. Rotten, worm-infested fruit. Are you schmucks happy now? mad
Posted by: garyW

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/06/13 12:26 PM

Republicans want to kill the socialist Federal jackbooted thuggery of the Postal Service and preserve our freedoms. Nazi's delivered mail on Saturday!!! What don't you understand?



Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/06/13 12:49 PM

Postal services are mentioned in the Constitution as one of the responsibilities of the federal government.

Article 1, Section 8: "The Congress shall have Power To . . . establish Post Offices and post Roads."

A constitutional challenge, by gum!
Posted by: steveg

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/06/13 12:51 PM

Small businesses, mail order meds users, consumers in general are gonna get swamped by the earliest ripples. Though DM is no longer the bulk of my business, my clients who use direct mail as a core media delivery conduit are gonna feel the pain and I suppose that's gonna trickle down to me at some point.

From what I can gather, it's primarily first class mail delivery that's being cut. Package delivery and I assume Priority and probably Express Mail will not be effected. But those are expensive options if a Saturday delivery is needed. The cheapest Priority Mail fee is $4.80 more than 10X the price of a first class stamp!
Posted by: garyW

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/06/13 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By: steveg
The cheapest Priority Mail fee is $4.80 more than 10X the price of a first class stamp!


And who lobbied for this? What other Federal agency is required to fully fund a reserve for pensions that cover the next 75 years?
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/06/13 01:57 PM

As I understand it, accounting rules that apply to pensions were changed about a decade or so ago. The new rules required that any entity that has a pension plan treat the full liability of all of its pension responsibilities at the same time. In other words, the rule requires that the cost of the pension be treated as if everyone to whom a pension is owed were to retire simultaneously. I think that's nonsense, frankly, and see it as another way to chip away at worker rights. I can't have a defined benefits pension because my college would have to carry the full indebtedness of the pension on its books. We have about 600 employees, so in the debit column, the college would have to make believe that all 600 employees will retire this year, and so show the cost of the pensions for all 600 employees. BS BS BS BS.

But what I don't know about accounting would fill a while encyclopedia.
Posted by: steveg

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/06/13 03:13 PM

It's all about union busting. This got through the lame duck congress in (I think) 2006.
Posted by: DLC

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/06/13 05:24 PM

Hey Steve..... If they want their assault rifles, I want my Saturday mail!! mad

wink

And you mean lame -smuck Congress don't ya ?? grin

Posted by: Leslie

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/06/13 07:03 PM

Being Canadian and never having mail delivered on Saturday, I never understood the need.
What could be so important, especially if it is being delivered by "snail mail", that could not wait one more day. Flyers? I don't think so.

Guess if you have it, you don't want to lose it. Speaks volumes to relinquishing anything.
Posted by: DLC

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/06/13 07:27 PM

That's why I made the comparison... Assault rifles & Saturday mail. Everyone can live without them! wink

Ban assault rifles and literally more people live!
Posted by: steveg

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/07/13 07:12 AM

Mail order medications, checks, legal documents, time-sensitive communications... There are lots of items for which a day's delay could be problematic. Business mail in particular. The sender can't always send something a day or two early to make a Friday delivery. It's not a good thing, and worse, it wouldn't have to be if Congress would only overturn the absurd 2006 law that has put the USPS in such a bind.
Posted by: garyW

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/07/13 08:23 AM

Saturday mail will continue to be delivered to PO boxes, that's a good thing.
Posted by: carp

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/07/13 09:04 AM

Well not to sure if you got anything time sensitive on Sat you still have to wait till the next business day to do anything about it and thats Monday.
Posted by: steveg

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/07/13 09:13 AM

Says who? Life is not a Mon-Fri 9-5 thing for everyone. If you need critical medications, and you ran out on Friday, should you roll the dice and see if you live through the weekend? The release of some prescription refills are very tightly controlled and cannot be sent early. If you are a business waiting for a signed contract, or a small mission-critical machine part or electronic circuit that can be sent via 1st class mail, do you shut down 'til Monday morning? Or should you incur 10X or more the postage so you can have it sent as a package? Steve, think outside your own living room!
Posted by: garyW

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/07/13 01:05 PM

The cuts to Saturday mail delivery do not include postal service packages which will continue as they are now. UPS and FedEx are always there if you choose not to depend on the postal service for package delivery.

The cuts are letter delivery only on Saturday. Soc sec checks, rent payments, and birthday cards will lose one day a week.
Posted by: steveg

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/07/13 01:26 PM

Yah, I know. First Class and likely Standard Rate will no longer be Saturday deliveries. But there are a lot of other 13 oz (or less) items that, if needed on a Saturday will have to ship via much more expensive channels.

As a rule, checks, even if deposited on a Saturday, still aren't posted 'til Monday as if the Saturday deposit never happened. But some banks will actually clear a Saturday deposit by COB of the following Monday.

I'm not suggesting that people will die by the dozen or businesses will fold over the weekend. What's more irritating is the utter stupidity of what's causing this, and the fact that it didn't have to be. That and the POV of some people who think that because it's no skin off their nose, it's no skin off anyone else's. <-- Not pointed at anyone (on the mainland). grin
Posted by: DLC

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/07/13 03:49 PM

I would hope time sensitive things would be labeled as packages and be delivered.

I DO think it's crappy of Congress to screw the USPS and postal workers. It's planned failure !!
And the big reason is to attack Unions. It's FUBAR ! mad

Your point about many not being hurt, but many will be is well taken. The USPS says they won;t have to cut people but they will cut OT. That's good IF they can do it (no layoffs), but I'm sure many relied on the OT to make ends meet. and you're right the whole damm thing could have been easily avoided !
Posted by: carp

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/07/13 07:11 PM

Really Steve - just make a adjustment for (one) day.

You make it sound like people are gonna die - gheees.
Posted by: steveg

Re: Way to go, Congress. - 02/08/13 03:25 AM

Looks like deliveries of clues have already been suspended at your address. Really Steve, adjust your information intake to something wide than that straw you're looking through. gheeeeeese.