Happy (?) New Year...

Posted by: steveg

Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 03:22 AM

So how f'd up is this fiscal cliff thing? This morning I launched TurboTax 2013 to check for updates and it started to whimper and then peed in my hard drive; and the just-submitted Medicare enrollment form pinned to my bulletin board burst into flames. eek

And how f'd up is Congress? No-brainer. mad
Posted by: Mike

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 04:45 AM

Yup, that pretty much describes the 'fiscal cliff' situation.
I laughed out loud when I heard that Mitch McConnell was looking for a dance partner! Who the he!! would wanna dance with that reptilian?
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 08:50 AM

Family resemblances are uncanny.



Posted by: Mike

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 10:24 AM

laugh laugh hahaha! That's a good one! laugh
Posted by: steveg

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 10:36 AM

Have you no decency, Man? You have done tortoises a grave disservice! shocked
Posted by: steveg

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 11:04 AM

Might we get sold out? mad

I understand that getting a deal might help prevent a potential market free fall. But I can't help thinking that after all their progress, the Dems have once again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

I feel my stomach dropping like the ball in Times Sq.
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 11:34 AM

Heard on CNN: the deal on the estate tax is a "real compromise." Why? Because "the Republicans won."

Sh!theads!!!
Posted by: six_of_one

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 11:34 AM

Quote:
Might we get sold out?

Only if you think that compromise = "selling out" ...

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But I can't help thinking that after all their progress, the Dems have once again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Personally, I don't care about the Democrats or wether they "win" or not -- negotiation and compromise involves giving a bit on your opening offer. If the Dems had wanted to end-up at $250,000, they should have opened with a lower number. But they didn't, and it's unrealistic to assume their opening number was going to stand.

As it is, the Republicans gave in on raising taxes at all in return for the Dems giving in on the income level that gets taxed -- that give and take is kind of the way things are supposed to work.

Besides, $400,000 is what they were offering Boehner before he stomped away from the table anyways, so I guess I don't see where this deal (as much as we know about it) is any worse ...

[edit]

Here's one explanation of the White House's strategy:
"And so, the idea is that itís better to lock in a deal on rates now, at, say, $450,000, extend unemployment benefits, and pocket those gains and continue the fight next year. Raising the income threshold is obviously not desirable, but Dems will have broken the decades-long GOP opposition to raising tax rates on the rich, pocketed hundreds of billions in revenues, made the tax code more progressive, and extended unemployment benefits ó all without agreeing to any spending cuts yet."

...

"But itís worth at least entertaining the possibility that the current posture the White House and Dems have adopted may be guided by an actual overarching strategy and game plan, and represents more than just a feckless cave, as many are suggesting."

Also, it looks like the Republicans are crying like stuck pigs, so that's probably a "good" sign, no? ;-)

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Posted by: steveg

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 12:15 PM

I'm not saying that it's all bad ó and we don't even know yet if it's a done deal. Yes, Obama's last offer on the income threshold was up from the original $250K to $400K, plus the chained CPI on SS. So why now $450K? Because the chained CPI is supposedly off the table?

My worry is as much or greater over what happens in a couple of months when the debt ceiling issue comes due again. Will a less than stellar deal now embolden the Repugnicans to play chicken with the global economy again? Pissant Lindsey Graham has already said he'll go for it.

A deal like this gives me even less incentive to trust the right, and all the more reason to tell the left No more Mr. Nice Guy!
Posted by: steveg

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 12:41 PM

Well here's the latest (as of a/b 20 minutes ago: linky-dinky
Posted by: garyW

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 01:11 PM

I entered the name "Fiscal Cliff" into the Mexican Wrestler Name Generator and I get "El Monkey Malo".

The Bad Monkey. A well-deserved title for this 112th Congress.






Funny, "Fiscal Cliff" in the Porn Star Name Generator results in "Fiscal Cliff."

Happy new year.
Posted by: steveg

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 01:33 PM

I entered "112th Congress" and got El Pedo Inutil. Translation (I kid you not): The Fart Useless! laugh laugh laugh
Posted by: steveg

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 03:01 PM

And speaking of useless farts, House Repugnicans say they will vote on other bills tonight, but not the most important bill in both chambers right now. So, it's over the cliff we go. And if God will grant me a Road Runner fantasy, Boneher will go over first, followed immediately by a f'n anvil. Beep-Beep, El Pedo Inutil... mad
Posted by: DLC

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 04:37 PM

Well I'm hoping all the House GOP (and throw McConnell in too) go over and an Acme anvil the size of Antarctica follows them all !! mad
(they would have to dig UP . . to find Hell !!) wink
Posted by: carp

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 12/31/12 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: steveg
I entered "112th Congress" and got El Pedo Inutil. Translation (I kid you not): The Fart Useless! laugh laugh laugh


GM entered (Chevy Nova) and sold it anyway - I kid you not - LOL
Posted by: MrB

Re: Happy (?) New Year... - 01/01/13 04:18 AM

LOL
wink
Business as usual, I guess

Dave