Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill

Posted by: garyW

Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/19/05 09:55 PM

Senator Ted Stevens inseted the ANWR drilling into Defense Appropriations Bill. <br><br>John Kerry speech to the Senate:<br><br>"Mr. President, the shame of what’s happening with the Defense Appropriations Bill is that this entire debate in unnecessary. It’s a strong, bipartisan bill that could and should have passed months ago. Yet here we are, just hours before the end of session, and our armed forces still don’t have their funding. For all the talk about supporting our troops, they’re not getting that support from Washington.<br><br>Senator McCain got it right when he called this maneuver on arctic drilling “disgusting.”<br><br>Let’s be very clear about what’s going on here. Republicans are putting oil companies ahead of our troops. They could have passed the Defense Appropriations Bill months ago. But first the White House, and now the Republican Leadership, decided other interests come before our troops. Their priorities are incredibly misplaced..."<br><br>"...Senator Stevens and all of us know that drilling in the Arctic Refuge has nothing to do with this critical defense legislation. Senator Stevens knows that just weeks ago, his proposal didn’t have the votes. Senator Stevens knows that his proposal will not pass in a stand-alone vote. Senator Stevens knows where our generals stand on this matter.<br><br>So what happens? The Republican leadership in this Congress breaks Senate rules to support this transparent attempt to attach arctic drilling to a bill that’s almost impossible to vote against. Is that how this Senate is going to work? Is it going to be the policy of this Senate to keep our troops waiting in order to keep special interests happy? What’s next? Medical malpractice? Immigration? Stem cell research? How long will our troops have to wait while Republican Senators attach unrelated, controversial bills that don’t have the votes and remain contentious in this body? What kind of precedent are we setting here?<br><br>Not long ago when Senator Stevens came to this floor to defend what some call his “bridge to nowhere,” he spoke about the importance of respecting the legislative process. I would urge him to go back and read what he said, heed his own words, and reconsider his decision to hold up this bill.<br><br>If he doesn’t, I fear we’re going to be here for quite a while. I intend to spend a lot of time talking about this. And if people want to call it a filibuster, that’s fine. What’s going on here isn’t right. Putting oil companies ahead of our troops isn’t right. And here and now, we have to establish the precedent that bills for our troops will not become vehicles for last minute, special interest pet project that in now way benefit the troops this bill is meant to serve.<br><br>This practice dishonors our troops, it dishonors this Senate – and in this particular instance, would lead to the destruction of one of America’s most treasured wildlife refuges."<br><br><br><br>The Senate passed the bill in a 5 am vote this morning. link<br> <br><br>
Posted by: SgtBaxter

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/19/05 10:14 PM

There really needs to be law passed that such measures cannot happen. <br><br>Not that I'm against ANWR drilling, the indians there seem to want it and frankly I think they and Alaskans should be the ones to decide, not any of us down here in the continental states. The place truly is mud for most of the year anyway.<br><br>But this kind of behaviour truly is disgusting, and should be illegal. Pork barrel politics certainly are clogging the arteries of this country.<br><br>
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/19/05 10:32 PM

<br>One question:<br><h1>Do we shoot him now?</h1><br><br><h1>Or wait 'til we get home?</h1><br><br>
Posted by: mojo_jojo

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/19/05 11:15 PM

If I'm not mistaken didn't McCain attach the Al qweeda Bill of Rights to this same bill?<br>If so, then it looks like good ole' fashion politicking. I'll show you mine if you show me yours. <br><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by mojo_jojo on 12/19/05 06:18 PM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
Posted by: Trog

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/19/05 11:56 PM

I think it passed the House but not the Senate yet, right?<br><br>
Posted by: mojo_jojo

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/19/05 11:59 PM

That is correct. <br><br>
Posted by: Trog

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 12:03 AM

Are you talking about McCain's military anti-torture amendment? Wouldn't you say that has a bit more relevance to a military bill than oil exploration?<br><br>
Posted by: garyW

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 12:05 AM

The senate voted this morning and approved it.<br><br>See the NYT link in my first post.<br>
Posted by: mojo_jojo

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 12:12 AM

I just get a kick out of McCain and others crying foul when both anwar and the torture issue deserve single billing. Neither should be included in this bill. It surely looks like a give and take to me. If passed by the Senate than McCain will strike the middle ground that he wants for '08. He'll be a darling of the left. and the Bush administration will get anwar. They all just hope the average joe doesn't notice what they are doing.<br><br>
Posted by: garyW

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 01:17 AM

McCain's torture bill has a huge margin of support... in fact Cheney is probably the only one opposed now that Bush flip-flopped on the issue. <br><br>By contrast, ANWAR was a closely contested issue. Stevens is proving himself to big a major league douchebag with his lips super-glued to the oil exec's butts, no matter what the effect on our troops may be. Kerry did the right thing going on the record to point that out.<br><br>
Posted by: DLC

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 01:21 AM

What Gary?? Bush flip flops !!! <br><br>I thought that was Kerry's job? <br><br>Only problem is Dubya has had flippers on for years... <br>Rove covered his tracks. er...well til lately... ole Carl hhas been very busy covering his own azz !!<br> <br><br>David (OFI)<br>
Posted by: newkojak

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 01:50 AM

Popularity isn't the only issue here either. Military appropriations is the only real way either house of Congress can have oversight over the Iraq War effort, an effort that has been compromised by the President's authorization of torture. That rationale is simple enough to understand completely on its own.<br><br>-- Charlie Alpha Roger Yankee Whiskey
Posted by: Trog

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 09:09 AM

I can't find what you read in that Times article, but only the House has approved the bill with the ANWR drilling in it.<br><br>Here's an article from Tuesday's Washington Post<br><blockquote>Senate leaders were trying to bring the two bills to a final vote tomorrow, but lawmakers warn that passage is far from certain...<br><br>Drilling opponents will try first to strip the ANWR provision by asserting that it flouts Senate rules against unrelated legislation on spending bills. If that fails, members from both parties are raising the politically risky prospect of a filibuster that would take 60 votes to break.</blockquote><br><br>
Posted by: Llewelyn

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 12:20 PM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>McCain's torture bill has a huge margin of support<p><hr></blockquote><p>Well that's because the McCain bill language is so open to interpretation.......<br><br>Is leather, handcuffs and whips degrading or innocent fun? Ask the guy coming out of a bordello and he'd probably pick the latter!!<br>I hear in some cultures that shouting at someone is considered cruel.<br><br>The thing is (each one of) you have a different gradient of what you consider to be cruel, what you consider to be degrading.<br><br><br>This last year the Texas legislature tried to pass a bill to outlaw suggestive cheerleader dances in school cheerleading groups. The trouble is that the courts pointed out you cannot enforce such a law because there is no definition of the term "suggestive dancing".<br><br>And you cannot enforce something with the phrase "I can't define it but I know it when I see it"<br><br><br>- This is gonna get pretty interesting. <br>- Define "interesting". <br>- Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die..<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Llewelyn on 12/20/05 07:23 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
Posted by: TheGreatDivide

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Posted by: garyW

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 04:08 PM

Yep, I wasn't right on that. The resolution attached the item to the bill. The Senate is yet to vote on the bill. If that's correct, is it just a little less sucky?<br><br><br><br>
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 07:23 PM

No, it sucks completely. And that roar of jets you hear over head . . .<br><br><br>Cheney races home as Senate budget vote nears<br><br><br>[color:blue] A Senate vote on a deficit-reduction bill looks to be so tight that Vice President Dick Cheney was rushing home Tuesday from an overseas diplomatic mission to be the tiebreaker for saving one of the Bush administration’s top priorities.</font color=blue><br><br><br><br><br>[color:blue]And I'm the one that jaded you . . .</font color=blue>
Posted by: DLC

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 07:35 PM

" Cheney races home!!"<br><br>Dick-head to the rescue !! ppbt !<br><br>is he the new Tom DeLay?<br><br>David (OFI)<br>
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Inserting ANWR Drilling into Defense Bill - 12/20/05 08:55 PM

Well, if the vote is tight enough, they'll certainly de-lay the vote till Cheney gets there <br><br>. . . . . Here's lookin' at [color:red]you</font color=red> kid.