Kerry had a scrap of paper...

Posted by: Trog

Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/08/04 11:33 AM

...but Bush had an earpiece to Rove??<br><br>I know someone here posted the picture of Bush with that "bulge" in his back last week, but it seems that the conspiracy theories are building. <br><br>Even though Salon is loaded with every ad in the world you still need a subscription. So, here's the text:<br><br><br>Oct. 8, 2004 | Was President Bush literally channeling Karl Rove in his first debate with John Kerry? That's the latest rumor flooding the Internet, unleashed last week in the wake of an image caught by a television camera during the Miami debate. The image shows a large solid object between Bush's shoulder blades as he leans over the lectern and faces moderator Jim Lehrer.<br><br>The president is not known to wear a back brace, and it's safe to say he wasn't packing. So was the bulge under his well-tailored jacket a hidden receiver, picking up transmissions from someone offstage feeding the president answers through a hidden earpiece? Did the device explain why the normally ramrod-straight president seemed hunched over during much of the debate?<br><br>Bloggers are burning up their keyboards with speculation. Check out the president's peculiar behavior during the debate, they say. On several occasions, the president simply stopped speaking for an uncomfortably long time and stared ahead with an odd expression on his face. Was he listening to someone helping him with his response to a question? Even weirder was the president's strange outburst. In a peeved rejoinder to Kerry, he said, "As the politics change, his positions change. And that's not how a commander in chief acts. I, I, uh -- Let me finish -- The intelligence I looked at was the same intelligence my opponent looked at." It must be said that Bush pointed toward Lehrer as he declared "Let me finish." The green warning light was lit, signaling he had 30 seconds to, well, finish.<br><br>Hot on the conspiracy trail, I tried to track down the source of the photo. None of the Bush-is-wired bloggers, however, seemed to know where the photo came from. Was it possible the bulge had been Photoshopped onto Bush's back by a lone conspiracy buff? It turns out that all of the video of the debate was recorded and sent out by Fox News, the pool broadcaster for the event. Fox sent feeds from multiple cameras to the other networks, which did their own on-air presentations and editing.<br><br>To watch the debate again, I ventured to the Web site of the most sober network I could think of: C-SPAN. And sure enough, at minute 23 on the video of the debate, you can clearly see the bulge between the president's shoulder blades.<br><br>Bloggers stoke the conspiracy with the claim that the Bush administration insisted on a condition that no cameras be placed behind the candidates. An official for the Commission on Presidential Debates, which set up the lecterns and microphones on the Miami stage, said the condition was indeed real, the result of negotiations by both campaigns. Yet that didn't stop Fox from setting up cameras behind Bush and Kerry. The official said that "microphones were mounted on lecterns, and the commission put no electronic devices on the president or Senator Kerry." When asked about the bulge on Bush's back, the official said, "I don't know what that was."<br><br>So what was it? Jacob McKenna, a spyware expert and the owner of the Spy Store, a high-tech surveillance shop in Spokane, Wash., looked at the Bush image on his computer monitor. "There's certainly something on his back, and it appears to be electronic," he said. McKenna said that, given its shape, the bulge could be the inductor portion of a two-way push-to-talk system. McKenna noted that such a system makes use of a tiny microchip-based earplug radio that is pushed way down into the ear canal, where it is virtually invisible. He also said a weak signal could be scrambled and be undetected by another broadcaster.<br><br>Mystery-bulge bloggers argue that the president may have begun using such technology earlier in his term. Because Bush is famously prone to malapropisms and reportedly dyslexic, which could make successful use of a teleprompter problematic, they say the president and his handlers may have turned to a technique often used by television reporters on remote stand-ups. A reporter tapes a story and, while on camera, plays it back into an earpiece, repeating lines just after hearing them, managing to sound spontaneous and error free.<br><br>Suggestions that Bush may have using this technique stem from a D-day event in France, when a CNN broadcast appeared to pick up -- and broadcast to surprised viewers -- the sound of another voice seemingly reading Bush his lines, after which Bush repeated them. Danny Schechter, who operates the news site MediaChannel.org, and who has been doing some investigating into the wired-Bush rumors himself, said the Bush campaign has been worried of late about others picking up their radio frequencies -- notably during the Republican Convention on the day of Bush's appearance. "They had a frequency specialist stop me and ask about the frequency of my camera," Schechter said. "The Democrats weren't doing that at their convention."<br><br>Repeated calls to the White House and the Bush national campaign office over a period of three days, inquiring about what the president may have been wearing on his back during the debate, and whether he had used an audio device at other events, went unreturned. So far the Kerry campaign is staying clear of this story. When called for a comment, a press officer at the Democratic National Committee claimed on Tuesday that it was "the first time" they'd ever heard of the issue. A spokeswoman at the press office of Kerry headquarters refused to permit me to talk with anyone in the campaign's research office. Several other requests for comment to the Kerry campaign's press office went unanswered.<br><br>As for whether we really do have a Milli Vanilli president, the answer at this point has to be, God only knows.<br><br>
Posted by: garyW

Don't forget Poland! - 10/08/04 11:45 AM

I suggest we use Bush's 'enhanced' performance in the first debate as a reason for him to continue using the rumored earpiece. Now let me finish!<br><br>
Posted by: Trog

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/08/04 11:46 AM

Some possible explanations...<br><br>-backbrace? Does GWB have problems, he sure is "hunched"<br>-bullet-proof vest? He's not the most popular person around<br>-Rove's hand? Someone has to work the puppet! <br><br>
Posted by: garyW

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/08/04 11:53 AM

The arguement is that it isa bulletproof vest. Which in itself is a sorry statement that he need to wear one to the incredibly controlled environment of the televised debate. Why there but not to his daily sweaty-shirt pep rallies?<br><br>My bet is that it was a earpiece, and by the grimaces and facial contortions someone hijacked the frequency and was blasting an Al Gore speech.... <br><br>
Posted by: Bryan

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/08/04 12:00 PM

The bulletproof vest thing is not a decision he makes...it's up to the secret service. <br><br>
Posted by: Michael

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/08/04 01:39 PM

That would explain the long pauses. <br><br>
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/08/04 02:51 PM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>a Milli Vanilli president<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>LOL<br><br>Not that I believe a word of it--yet.<br><br>
Posted by: Trog

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/08/04 02:53 PM

Looks like its been officially denied now, but Mark McKinnon, Media Director for the George W. Bush re-election campaign, has a sense of humor about it:<br><br>"I love this. Am tempted to say, 'I cannot confirm or deny,' and let the story get some legs. Or, how about, 'Since we put the metal plate in his head, we have had some measure of success with audio transmissions to the President.' Or, 'Yeah, but it clearly broke down during the debate.'"<br><br>McKinnon continues: "Unfortunately, the truth is not nearly as interesting. The answer is, 'The President has never been assisted by any audio signal." <br><br>Pretty funny comments from the Bush team.<br><br>Apparently this conspiracy has been going on for a while and there is a website devoted to it.<br><br>
Posted by: Terry11

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/08/04 04:43 PM

Kerry's note has been found... this is it.<br><br><br><br><br>
Posted by: Trog

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/09/04 01:44 AM

Hmmm... slow down there Mr. McKinnon. We have a couple more questions before you leave. <br><br>Seems, the Times thought they'd find out what the White House says about it, but no one has any answers. Here, I'll just give the play-by-play, I can't sleep tonight anyway. <br><br><br><br>WHITE HOUSE: It was photoshopped! Its a fake!<br><br>TIMES: Its video... from Fox news, no less!<br><br>WHITE HOUSE: Oh.... well, Its just "rumpled fabric" then.<br><br>TIMES: Rectangular, rumpled fabric protruding through the back of a sport jacket? (pause) Well, was he wearing a bullet-proof vest that night, by chance?<br><br>WHITE HOUSE: No.<br><br>TIMES: Then what is it?<br><br>WHITE HOUSE: Umm... I'm sorry, I've got another call.<br><br><br>Vroom! Vroom! The conspiracy machine is back on the road! <br><br>
Posted by: Trog

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/09/04 08:11 PM

They did a better job hiding it last night, but its still there... <br><br><br><br><br>
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/09/04 08:53 PM

Maybe Bush is really Richard III:<br><br>[color:blue]I, that am curtail'd of this fair proportion,<br>Cheated of feature by dissembling nature,<br>Deformed, unfinish'd, sent before my time<br>Into this breathing world, scarce half made up,<br>And that so lamely and unfashionable<br>That dogs bark at me as I halt by them;<br>Why, I, in this weak piping time of peace,<br>Have no delight to pass away the time,<br>Unless to spy my shadow in the sun<br>And descant on mine own deformity:<br>And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover,<br>To entertain these fair well-spoken days,<br>I am determined to prove a villain<br>And hate the idle pleasures of these days.</font color=blue><br><br>
Posted by: Trog

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/09/04 10:25 PM

Yoyo, I would be impressed if he even knew who Shakespeare was. <br><br>"No Mr. President, he was not in the Daytona last year." <br><br>
Posted by: Michael

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/09/04 11:08 PM

Pffft that's the battery. You did know he's an android?<br><br>
Posted by: sean

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/11/04 10:11 PM

here's the video of dubya using an ear piece telling him what to say during this press event. there's two videos, and i've found that just downloading the whole video (16 MB) is quicker than the streaming version. lends credence to the puppet theory . . . sheesh!<br><br><a href="http://philbrittin.com/news2/news.php#">link</a><br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
Posted by: MattMac112

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/11/04 10:33 PM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>here's the video of dubya using an ear piece telling him what to say during this press event. there's two videos, and i've found that just downloading the whole video (16 MB) is quicker than the streaming version. lends credence to the puppet theory . . . sheesh!<p><hr></blockquote><p>That's either a glitch with the broadcast audio feed or the worst attempt to "prove" a "conspiracy theory" I've ever seen . . . Unless Jim Angle and Jacques Chirac are in on the conspiracy too. This is the equivalent of the *authentic* UFO picture with the string clearly visible. <br><br>****************<br><br>[color:blue]VOTE</font color=blue>[color:red] for President George W. Bush on November 2, 2004</font color=red>
Posted by: Shooshie

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/11/04 11:47 PM

Sean, that is a different excerpt than the one I heard originally. The one I heard made me think that it was merely a technical glitch in the audio. The voice was identically timed and inflected. It sounded like Bush, only with a different tone, which can happen in technical glitches. You may have read my posts over at MacCentral in which I denied that this could be an example of an earpiece. I concluded it was an echo picked up somehow during overseas transmission. They just sounded too exactly alike, except for their tone.<br><br>But THIS example... the one you just posted... this is clearly two different voices. This is not some sort of echo of Bush's voice. Echo's and originals have to say the exact same thing, and Bush stumbled a time or two. The "other" voice didn't. <br><br>The prompter voice said "I look forward to working with President Chirac..." <br>Bush's voice fumbled it: "I look workin... look forward to workin with the President Chirac..."<br><br>So, there really is an earpiece. Now I'm more inclined to believe that he was actually using this during the debate. Thanks for posting that. You've changed my mind. If you're not going to post that over at MacCentral, I think I will. <br><br><br>Shooshie<br><br><br><br><br>[color:green]Pictures and things</font color=green>
Posted by: Trog

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/12/04 12:03 AM

See, now I disagree. To me it sounds just like Bush's voice, and a complete echo too.<br><br>The part where you say he fumbles, you can't hear the "I look workin'" part because the real Bush is speaking too loudly and it drowns it out. You only hear the second half which is spoken correctly by both dubyas. Is there another area you heard a difference between the two voices? It even sounds like his stupid-ass hick accent, but then those are a dime a dozen --- <br><br>This doesn't seem like proof to me.<br><br>edit: Ok, the weird thing though is that Jim Angle's voice does have a *real* echo (i.e. its delayed), but as soon as Bush starts to answer the question it goes back to sounding like a prompter voice again? So, is the echo of Jim Angle's voice coming through Bush's earpiece? You would assume there would be a delay between when Jim Angle speaks to Cheney/Rove's T.V. set () to back to Bush's wire, right?<br><br>I still don't believe it though, because that is definitely Bush's voice. I'd recognize that golden tongue anywhere.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Trog on 10/12/04 03:18 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
Posted by: MattMac112

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/12/04 12:12 AM

Not to mention the well choreographed Chiraq cough between 2:38 - 2:41. <br><br>****************<br><br>[color:blue]VOTE</font color=blue>[color:red] for President George W. Bush on November 2, 2004</font color=red>
Posted by: Trog

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/12/04 12:15 AM

Yes, good catch <br><br>
Posted by: sean

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/12/04 04:48 AM

this is the perfect environment to slip the old ear piece in since he's using it for an interpreter anyway. i don't hear the "echo" stumble when dubya screws up. it's different audio and dubya's timing is off from the "echo" in that he's quicker to respond or follow it at times and slower others.<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
Posted by: Shooshie

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/12/04 05:01 AM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>The part where you say he fumbles, you can't hear the "I look workin'" part because the real Bush is speaking too loudly and it drowns it out. You only hear the second half which is spoken correctly by both dubyas. Is there another area you heard a difference between the two voices? It even sounds like his stupid-ass hick accent, but then those are a dime a dozen --- <br><p><hr></blockquote><p>Trog's right. The fumble in the "prompter" voice is covered by Bush's voice, so we just don't hear the prompter. I'm inclined, once again, to say it's the same voice. Just a technical glitch. I have to admit that it's a big relief to see it that way. The presidential puppet on a wire was just too much. I don't like Bush, but that would be like something out of a science fiction movie, and I'm not ready for that. I was seriously depressed about it!<br><br>Thanks Trog, for pointing out what I, in my half-sleeping stupor, missed.<br><br><br>Shooshie<br><br><br><br>[color:green]Pictures and things</font color=green>
Posted by: sean

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/12/04 06:32 AM

i turned my speakers up as loud as they'd go and i just don't hear the stumble in the other audio that dubya makes. even though dubya is talking, i should still be able to distinguish something when the volume it way up, but i don't.<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/12/04 08:26 AM

The link is dead now. Hmmmmm . . . . Who put on the pressure, eh? <br><br>
Posted by: Trog

Re: Kerry had a scrap of paper... - 10/13/04 08:29 AM

Ok, conspiracy or no, what the hell is this thing, cause he even wears it at the Ranch? The idea that it is Rove's link to the president's brain (brain? neural net, maybe) might be outrageous, but it would be nice to know why our president walks around with a piece of unknown hardware on his back. So far all the White House will say is that its a rumpling of fabric. Do they think we're stupid? Oh.... yes, I guess they do. More nonsense at Salon.<br><br><br><br>