Please stop the pain....

Posted by: Bryan

Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 07:20 PM

Kerry is just destroying the president...<br><br>
Posted by: Trog

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 07:23 PM

But... this won't matter very much when voting time comes. <br><br>
Posted by: Bryan

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 07:37 PM

Maybe it will, maybe it won't. As a hardcore, partisan Bush supporter, there is no question that Kerry was more well-prepared, had ice water running through his veins, and just walked in there and got it done. <br><br>Kerry 1<br><br>Bush 0<br><br>
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 07:44 PM

I hate to disagree with you, Bryan () but I think that Bush actually did pretty well. Maybe that's because, despite his being president now for four years, my expectations are so low, but still I thought he did the best job possible of defending a record that IMHO is indefensible.<br><br>
Posted by: Bryan

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 07:45 PM

<br>The TV talking heads say Bush didn't do as badly as I think he did....I just didn't think he did well. <br><br>
Posted by: AfterTenSoftware

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 07:52 PM

I remember the first Bush/Gore debate and I thought Bush did horrible. The next day reading stories and listening to analysis the common wisdom was a tie or a slight Bush advantage. So I have stopped trying to predict a "winner". (but I will anyways)<br><br>I don't think either made any decisive punch. I think this was an opportunity to deliver a major blow to ones opponent but neither did.<br><br>I give it a tie on substance and a big win for Kerry on presentation.<br><br><br>No sig right now, waiting for the next Kerry flip-flop. .
Posted by: sean

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 07:53 PM

not scientific, mind you. however, i voted at 10:50, which was about 20 minutes after the rest of the world finished watching. <br><br><img src="http://homepage.mac.com/jayhawk/.Pictures/cnn.poll.jpg" width="527" height="384"/><br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
Posted by: Michael

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 08:01 PM

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Posted by: TheGreatDivide

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 08:04 PM

Here's some Tylenol:<br><br><br>[color:red]!sevaS trA</font color=red>
Posted by: AfterTenSoftware

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 08:09 PM

I wonder why?...<br>From the desk of DNC head Terry McAuliffe today:<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Tonight, don't let George Bush's henchmen steal another victory. We need your online help immediately after the debate, so save this email, print it out, and have it ready with you as you watch the first Presidential debate tonight.<br><br>We all know what happened in 2000. Al Gore won the first debate on the issues, but Republicans stole the post-debate spin. We are not going to let that happen again, and you will play a big role.<br><br><br>Immediately after the debate, we need you to do three things: vote in online polls, write a letter to the editor, and call in to talk radio programs. Your 10 minutes of activism following the debate can make the difference.<br><br><br>Vote<br><br><br>National and local news organizations will be conducting online polls during and after the debate asking for readers' opinions. Look for online polls at these national news websites, and make sure to vote in every one of them:<br><br><br>ABC News: http://www.abcnews.com/<br>CBS News: http://www.cbsnews.com/<br>CNN: http://www.cnn.com/<br>Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/<br>MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.com/<br>USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/<br><br><br>And be sure to check the websites of your local newspapers and TV stations for online polls. It is crucial that you do this in the minutes immediately following the debate.<br><br><br>Write<br><br><br>Immediately after the debate, go online and write a letter to the editor of your local paper. If you feel John Kerry commanded the debate and had a clear plan for fixing the mess in Iraq, put it in your letter. If you feel George Bush dodged tough questions on Iraq and didn't level with voters, put it in your letter.<br><br><br>With just a few clicks, you can write your letter at our online media<br>center:<br><br><br>http://www.democrats.org/media/<br><br><br>Call<br><br><br>Do you listen to national or local call-in shows on the radio? How about on TV? Call them and let them know what you thought of John Kerry's plan to keep America secure and George Bush's continuing refusal to admit the truth about his record.<br><br><br>Here are some national shows to get you started. (All times are Eastern.)<br><br><br>Air America (all day): 646-274-2346<br>Alan Colmes (10 a.m. to 1 p.m.): 212-301-5900<br>Ed Shultz (3 p.m. to 6 p.m.): 701-232-1525<br>Bev Smith (7 p.m. to 10 p.m.): 412-325-4197<br>Doug Stephen (5 a.m. 10 a.m.): 1-800-510-8255<br>Find shows in your area on our media website:<br><br><br>http://www.democrats.org/media/find.html<br><br><br>Your actions immediately after the debate tonight can help John Kerry win on November 2. Make your voice heard!<br><br><br>Don't forget to visit our 2004 Debate Center before, during, and after the debate for important information, including questions Bush must answer, a Bush/Kerry contrast on keeping America safe, and Bush Debate Bingo, a game you can play with friends during the debate.<br><br><br>http://www.democrats.org/debates/<br><br><br>And after the debate, check your email for a very special message.<br><br><br>Thank you,<br><br><br><br>Terry McAuliffe<br>Chairman<br><br><br>PS: Make sure to forward this email to at least 10 other people who will be watching the debate. Also, give printed out copies to your friends, family members, coworkers and neighbors and get them involved.<p><hr></blockquote><p>No sig right now, waiting for the next Kerry flip-flop. .
Posted by: sean

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 08:16 PM

that's cool. i wonder why i didn't get it. i gave them money. anyway, i just checked fox news and they still don't have a poll up. i wonder why?<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
Posted by: garyW

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 08:50 PM

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Posted by: sean

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 08:54 PM

looks like he just saw a ghost. (kidding matt)<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 09:02 PM

I got that email something like five times--once from the original source and then four times from folks who couldn't resist forwarding it <br><br>Of course the RNC and its surrogates would never do such a thing.<br><br>Nosirree.<br><br>Bob.<br><br>
Posted by: Michael

Re: Please stop the pain.... - 09/30/04 09:04 PM

who needs debates. Hollywood keeps me informed. <br><br><br><br>