A real class act

Posted by: Michael

A real class act - 09/17/04 08:04 AM

<br>Sophia Parlock, 3, cries while seated on the shoulders of her father, Phil Parlock, a supporter of President Bush, after a Bush-Cheney sign she and her father were holding was torn up by another person standing in the crowd that had gathered to greet Democratic vice presidential nominee Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.<br><br>
Posted by: garyW

Staged incident is outed - 09/17/04 08:26 AM

Phoney set up debunked. Staged incident by using his 21-year old son in Kerry union shirt to make his daughter cry, bring your own photographer, repeated similar stunt in 2000. Read this linked thread and tell me that this guy Phil Parlock, isn't a true poser. And using his kids this way is pretty disgusting.<br><br> Phil Parlock outed <br><br><br>His son, on the left holding torn up Bush sign, seems pretty amused.<br>
Posted by: garyW

Re: A real class act - 09/17/04 08:37 AM

<br>The lady's son was killed in Iraq. She's being hauled away because she had the guts to say so outside of the venue where Laura Bush was speaking!<br><br><br>
Posted by: AfterTenSoftware

Re: Staged incident is outed - 09/17/04 08:52 AM

Interesting theory. Does seem a little weird the little girl would cry so much if her brother ripped up the sign.<br>But, this is certainly something to look into and should be much easier to prove true than Rather will have with the memos.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003
Posted by: garyW

lies spread faster than truth - 09/17/04 09:00 AM

Interesting theory! The thing happens more than once, gets photographed, story and photos in the papers and Drudge. How come he's looking like the victim and not comforting his kid? Why is his son standing next to him in a Kerry shirt smiling? He's a Republican trouble maker concocting bogus situations to make the Dems look evil. Amazingly, for the past three presidential elections he's managed to convince reporters that he's gotten attacked, gotten his signs stolen and destroyed and his children harassed. What are the odds? I'm sure this *sshole will be the next new martyr to sell his story on Hannity.<br>
Posted by: MattMac112

Re: A real class act - 09/17/04 09:22 AM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>The lady's son was killed in Iraq. She's being hauled away because she had the guts to say so outside of the venue where Laura Bush was speaking!<p><hr></blockquote><p>Now Gary . . . This woman wasn't peacefully protesting outside the Laura Bush event when, suddenly, the Police, armed with the Patriot Act, decided to violate her First Amendment rights and throw her in Jail:<br><br><blockquote>As shouts of "Four More Years" subsided, Niederer, standing in the middle of a crowd of some 700, continued to shout about the killing of her son. <br><br>When Bush mentioned the troops abroad, Niederer shouted, "When are yours going to serve?" referring to Bush's 22-year-old twin daughters, who aren't in the armed services. <br><br>Local police escorted her out of the event, handcuffed her and placed her in the back of a police van. <br><br>Outside the hall, she said she had a ticket and asked why she was being arrested. She was told by police she had entered a private event and had refused to leave, the Trenton Times reported. <br><br>Niederer was later charged with defiant trespass and released. The charge could lead to a fine and a jail term of up to 60 days but jail time rarely results from such offenses, said a police spokesman.</blockquote><br><br>Yes, it's tragic that her son was killed and we all feel for her. But had she protested in the manner you described "having the guts to say so outside of the venue", then she wouldn't have been arrested.<br><br>****************<br><br>[color:blue]VOTE</font color=blue>[color:red] for President George W. Bush on November 2, 2004</font color=red>
Posted by: garyW

Re: A real class act - 09/17/04 09:49 AM

AP article says 'inside', yet the video shown on Olberman's Countdown showed the incident happening outside.<br><br>
Posted by: AfterTenSoftware

Re: lies spread faster than truth - 09/17/04 10:01 AM

Right, it's a theory (just like the Rather memos are still technically a theory). Why a theory? Because it hasn't been proven. The thoery rests upon the notion that the kid in the Kerry shirt is his son. While the photographic comparsion is compelling I'd say it's not conclusive. Like I said with further investigation it should be easy to prove or dis-prove conclusivly though.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003
Posted by: garyW

Re: lies spread faster than truth - 09/17/04 10:10 AM

An do you think anyone in the media is going to investigate this incident or they'll print the picture and story, as Michael posted, and that will be it?<br><br>My hunch is that Countdown will be the only show that will look into it, or at least mention that it's been considered suspicious and present some info looking further than the original 'class act' outrage. <br><br>It's pretty incredible how the collective power of the internet can spread lies, search for truth, move stories to the front of Drudge, then onto blogs and forums and overnight turn a story inside out.<br><br><br>
Posted by: MattMac112

Re: A real class act - 09/17/04 10:11 AM

The video on MSNBC's Olberman countdown was probably picked up by a cameraman who was already outside in the reporter pool.<br><br>****************<br><br>[color:blue]VOTE</font color=blue>[color:red] for President George W. Bush on November 2, 2004</font color=red>
Posted by: AfterTenSoftware

Re: lies spread faster than truth - 09/17/04 10:12 AM

Yes, I do because it's a compelling story. I'm very interested in knowing if this was staged or not.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003
Posted by: AfterTenSoftware

Re: lies spread faster than truth - 09/17/04 10:15 AM

Well here's one organization that will be investigating...<br>IBPAT<br><br>And if they find out it's staged you can be sure everyone will know.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003
Posted by: garyW

Re: A real class act - 09/17/04 10:18 AM

okay, but that's not what it appeared to be Thursday night. <br>**** funny, this time AP is being used as the accurate source <br><br>This Parlock guy is being used to create a big outrage. Will there be just as much outrage when this guy and his son are proven frauds? Will anyone, will Drudge, retract and offer up a correction to the story? We'll see shortly. <br><br>
Posted by: AfterTenSoftware

Re: lies spread faster than truth - 09/17/04 10:19 AM

The theory take a little step back...<br>From the Wash. Times<br>"Sophia is the youngest of 10 children in a proudly patriotic family. The oldest two Parlock children, a 22-year-old daughter and a 21-year-old son, are members of the West Virginia Army National Guard, and a third Parlock who recently turned 18 will be sworn into the guard tomorrow, Mr. Parlock said."<br><br>Sounds like the usual suspects, the 21 year old son or the 18 year old may have easily verifiable alibis.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003
Posted by: sean

Re: lies spread faster than truth - 09/17/04 10:33 AM

why? my neighbor across the street is in the michigan national guard and i saw him working on his lawn last night. <br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
Posted by: garyW

Re: lies spread faster than truth - 09/17/04 10:45 AM

It's going to be very easy for that guy in the union shirt to be identified. How about an interview with Parlock, what's his story going to be? How about some of the Kerry supporters in the photo (who look like they were backing off from the situation) will they be sought out for a statement? Easy stuff to find some truth here.<br><br>
Posted by: MattMac112

Re: A real class act - 09/17/04 11:14 AM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>This Parlock guy is being used to create a big outrage. Will there be just as much outrage when this guy and his son are proven frauds?<p><hr></blockquote><p>You'll notice I haven't made any comment on this guy. Reasons being:<br><br>a). What'd you think would happen?<br>b). This looks too staged.<br><br>****************<br><br>[color:blue]VOTE</font color=blue>[color:red] for President George W. Bush on November 2, 2004</font color=red>
Posted by: AfterTenSoftware

Re: lies spread faster than truth - 09/17/04 12:33 PM

Now the theory takes a step forward.<br>Drudge has pulled the story from the front page.<br>This could be that he has now found out something is fishy or it just got bumped for the Madonna story.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003