eMac Mods?

Posted by: lawson

eMac Mods? - 06/04/04 11:09 PM

I've been kind of suprised that we haven't seen any case mods for the "Giant White Marshmallow" of the desktop macs, the eMac... Looking at this, it looks like the same back-painted polycarbonate case like the iBooks use -- does anyone know if this is true? If so, it should be possible to do a paint-stripper repaint style mod such as we've seen on the iBooks...
Posted by: krusher117

Re:eMac Mods? - 06/04/04 11:13 PM

I assume you are talking about your eMac? Take off the cover and look inside. The paint will be very noticeable. But I think that like the iBook, the eMac is colored plastic, not clear plastic that is painted from below.
Posted by: scottk

Re:eMac Mods? - 06/05/04 06:23 PM

Marshmallow. Haven't seen that before.

Actually, and perhaps I'm in the minority, but I like how this casing looks. I wouldn't modify it.
Posted by: mark

Re:eMac Mods? - 06/05/04 11:46 PM

Kinda, maybe.

There's an eMac disassembly guide out there with some pics of clear case parts from eMac. Its in japanese so you'll need a translator (Babel Fish works well enough)

http://suyama.co.jp/index.html

OTOH that came out weeks after the eMac did. Depending on how old the eMac is there might be a possibility, but I doubt it. Apple probably moved those to solid plastics before they converted the ibooks. Of course, you could always hit it with a regular paint job and a clear coat...
Posted by: scottk

Re:eMac Mods? - 06/06/04 12:11 AM

I used an emac at an apple store in Ohio last week. Felt like an old imac but sturdier.
Posted by: BobCollard

Re:eMac Mods? - 06/08/04 09:12 PM

Who looks at the case? My eMac was bought loaded, 1Gb DDR RAM, 160Gb HD running at 1.25Ghz and all I see sitting here is the screen. My mods come from many software companies including Apple, AphaOmega software,Unsanity and an accellerator for the web from TurboDial. This left my dock clear, some icons changed, a better menu system and efficiency all around. I did get rid of that one button mouse and went with Logitech for a Ball Mouse, Dual action game controller and Attack 3 Joystick. Add to that a powered USB-2 four port hub and a small incandescent strip light over my keyboard drawer and I'm all set. B)
Posted by: zenstate

Re:eMac Mods? - 10/16/04 03:00 PM

only emac mods I have ever heard of are overclocking and open firmware hacking to enable dual monitor.
Posted by: oojacoboo

Re:eMac Mods? - 10/16/04 06:48 PM

Bob, we realize that the only thing you see when you are sitting in front of your computer is probably the screen. However, people do like to look at their computers when they are not using them. Also, what about other people that see them? In addition, do you see the white around the edges of the screen?

People mod the looks of a computer for a more personalized feel. Not everyone is the same. wink
Posted by: BobCollard

Re:eMac Mods? - 10/19/04 03:26 AM

First, when my eMac is asleep or seldom turned off there is a very nice cover with gold embroidery over the screen. This keeps out dust and improves the atmosphere in the room. I would not jeapordize the three year warrantee on this fine equipment by tearing it apart to paint it. If you think you can paint it while it is together, I think you are fooling yourself. Second when I look at the screen the only thing other than the white boarder is a small blue bug with google eyes pasted on the light beside the DVD-R CDRW door which cuts glare and hopefully is the only bug on my computer. I chose to put all my money into software and equipment, my next buy will be speakers. I am not critcizing others who would void their warrantees, just giving my opinion.
Posted by: oojacoboo

Re:eMac Mods? - 10/19/04 05:07 AM

I do see where u are coming from. I am glad that you realize that people are different. Most of the people that mod their systems happen to know more than apple service techs anyway. Therefore, they can fix any mistake they make. However, they realize that it is a risk and I guess that is something that has to be taken into account. People like the customization of a computer to fit their taste. As for the comment on the cover. That sounds very nice. I am glad that it adds to the ambiance of your decor. Many people, including most mac users and modders consider the mac itself a piece of artwork and would never consider covering it. Even though it saves the computer's live wink . This is why modding is so popular, b/c it makes it look that much better, or fit the decor.

Post edited by: oojacoboo, at: 2004/10/19 12:09
Posted by: modyourmac

Re:eMac Mods? - 10/19/04 05:03 PM

Jacob, I heard that wink

Always remember, there's a distinction between Service Tech's with years of experience and retail store "Geniuses" who get two weeks training courtesy of apple. I like to think that my wealth of knowledge puts me in a position to better mod a mac, because I know my way around them blindfolded, whereas the end user doesnt take them apart all day, and probably hasnt read all of the apple internal diagnostic manuals.

As far as warranty goes, I prefer not to touch anything under warranty unless I order spare plastics for it. (like my ibook) I paint the spares and keep the originals, should it need to go to apple for an REA issue or similar. Out of warranty is a whole nother ball-game.

In regard to the eMacs, on many of them the dome plastics are molded in the opaque white color, and the front bezel plastic is clear, giving it the appearance of the early snow ibooks. When I modded an eMac for my shop, I went the easy way by sanding the outter surface of the removed plastics, priming them, painting them, and clear coating them. It comes out looking good, and its not as much of a pain as stripping the internal whiting can be.

Modding, its a personal preference. Not for everyone. But absolutely for me smile

One last thought, dust covers are all fine and good, but realize that the majority of the dust that gets into your computer is sucked in when the machine is running. The fans pull air in, as opposed to pushing it out. it gets amplified if you smoke lots around your computer (the marlboro effect) The most proactive thing you can do is to buy cans of compressed air, and blow the dust rhino's out. it takes about ten seconds and works like a charm. An old toothbrush can also clean fan blades and intakes as well. This will serve you better than any cover ever could. Trust me, I've cleaned stuff out of cases that was so thick, it caused the processors to burn out from lack of airflow. And of course the customer was shocked because she covered it up every night.

Okay, nuff from me, someone elses turn to babble!
Posted by: whitlock

Re:eMac Mods? - 10/19/04 07:56 PM

Hell yeah! Preaching to the Choir! I am one of those tech's that had years of experience and wasn't thrown through a boot camp via Apple. I was trained by people who repaired Mac SE's for Gods sake. I'd like to think that we have more experience and Genius in our pinkies than those at the Genius bars.
Posted by: modyourmac

Re:eMac Mods? - 10/19/04 11:32 PM

Word. Granted, I know several people who are geniuses, but they cut their teeth in indy shops before taking up the mantle. My boy Bryan at Apple Soho counts as leet any day of the week. The unfortunate reality is that there's a pretty high turnover for the geniuses. Similarly, some of them are just "joing a job" as opposed to those of us that eat and sleep this stuff. Hell, once Apple opens the Bethesda Row mini store, there will be 4 (count em, four!) Apple retail stores within 30 minutes of my shop. The Irony is that customers regularly come into my shop and say, "I went to the Apple store at (insert tysons, clarendon, or montgomery) and they said they couldnt fix it and that I should come to you." Granted, the retail stores pull some stocked product sales from us, but they send plenty of service to us when they cant facilitate something. Course, why they send me iPod repairs I dont know. They know as well as I do that all ipod warranty work MUST be sent to apple...

So, yeah. Never take a seasoned tech for granted :lol: Those of us who stick with it take pride in the fact that we're leet and poor.
Posted by: whitlock

Re:eMac Mods? - 10/20/04 03:05 AM

Hell, I remember being a tech. You got the poor part right. Hell, people would bring their stuff in to diagnose first, pay us for diagnosis, then send it to Apple if it was cover under AppleCare (and was a PowerBook/iBook). They would pay for the fact that we would tell them exactly what was wrong, so it would come back fixed. And I don't think many places will service LaserWriters anymore. I've got a few fuser burns to prove my experience (with training a bad tech). I'm glad that there is a Genius that actually came to the store with experience though...I've wondered about that before.

B)
Posted by: modyourmac

Re:eMac Mods? - 10/20/04 02:06 PM

Yeah, I've torn and burnt some flesh on those old laser printers too. Luckily, they're all vintage now and we cant get parts for them.

As to being poor, its hard to keep a small shop going. You put everything you make, back into the shop. But, there's more important things than being rich (cant believe I just said that). I take pride in my skills and my certs, not to mention being able to fix almost anything. I may not be rich, but I come to work in casual clothes, I get to do what I love, and the people I work with respect me, which breeds loyalty. A job isnt work if its something you love smile

Yeah, we get a sucker now and then that tries to use us for diagnosis crap. But, as long as I get my flat rate diagnostic fee, they can do what they want with it. As far as warranty goes, we just fix it. Luckily, our customers appreciate our attention to detail and the fact that on the ocassion a machine comes back from apple and is still broken, we'll go to bat for the customer and get it fixed. At this point, I think Service Provider Support is afraid of me.

But, such is the life of a service tech smile
Posted by: whitlock

Re:eMac Mods? - 10/20/04 04:27 PM

I'm glad there is another tech out there that does exactly what I used to do. I left on my own volition BTW. Just the customers became too dependant, and I got sick of them, even the repeat business. Just seeing the same people over and over again making the same mistakes, also making more money than you could ever...just something snapped and had to go. New business tended to go to younger people who knew how to call Apple and were smart enough to buy AppleCare. Stress hit, and the business was a health hazard. We did PC work too, but Apple was where the love is.

I loved doing what I did, it was just the people after a while. They didn't understand anything, they would buy from Apple after you have a sale in the bag, and then bring it in wanting help. We would give them free service if they bought the machine and it was reasonable, but they would end up paying more for two hours of work than the profit we would have on the machine if they bought it from us. It's not that taking the hit from the pocket book was it, it was that they would blatently dissrespect you. Well, it felt like it.

Then there were the legacy customers. The ones that kept on coming back with their 6360's and a 2500 that stopped working. After a while, the parts just don't show up as often. They would whine and kick and scream about it, and wouldn't take your advice on putting a USB card in and getting 9.1 installed and a cheap $50 printer, after they put in about $100 in a year to keep their old printer. They loved their old stuff, but it was costing more than the equipment. These people would never upgrade and just didn't get the fact that a 8 year old computer maybe too old. Then they bring it in because it's jammed, a common pencil jam, and cry about it and try to blame it on you. I would take the pencil out and hand it back, and kick em out.

Then there were the stoners...they were cool. They would show up with $100 bills in their hands and buy stuff at random. Wait, they were the gangsters, no joke. They threw down so much money that I didn't care. They would sit in front of the store, smoke for an hour, come in all blazed, and buy 3 machines. I wish all the customers were like that.
Posted by: zenstate

Re:eMac Mods? - 12/04/04 04:53 PM

I would like to see a black emac. I bet that would make it look a lot cooler.

one idea I have had for a new and cheap mac is to get an emac. I don't like the crt on it as its not near as crisp as my viewsonic 19" pro series. what I plan to do is get one and only use the built in screen to boot and install the dual monitor hack for ibook, imac, emac. put emac on the floor and face it screen toward wall with a plain black dtp so as to not get light from it. set viewsonic as main screen and put emac screen below it in display settings so that I don't lose windows to the right or left.. connect both the emac and my powermac via kvm to my viewsonice + kb/mouse.

my powermac has a dvd burner so I get get the entry level once they are reved again in early 2005. supposed to be a 1.6 G5 or dual core G4 1.5. so for 1000 canadian I can get a super beast compared to the one I already have that runs fine. I get all the power without the emac screen. I will keep the face far enough away from the wall so the combo drive can open in the rare event I will need to use it.

I plan on modding the whole back top and side part that slides off black and leaving the face white (even though you won't see much as it will face the wall. the black and white emac would look nice down next to the black & white powermac.

I have put much thought into this and its the most economical way for me to get a signifigant power increase with new hardware. it would be 3-4 times faster than my current system. plus I will only have to pay 1000-1100 canadian in total and be left with 2 great systems.

I think its a great I dea to scream on a budget. I don't game so an emac will be great for me. you can also squeeze 2GB ram into them now smile