Movies nobody else watched ~

Posted by: Lea

Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/24/13 05:43 PM


I'll start with the three best ever ~

Repo Man

11:14

Hedwig and the Angry Inch*



*This post is inspired by the TRex version of 20th Century Boy. Hey ~ It's still steamin' down here on the Gulf Coast, I fkn' hate August, and I can't wait to rip this this page off the calender. Oh, and we do what we can to stay cool, even if it means listening to music that predates our understanding of . . . whatever. It all rocks.


cool
 LL
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/24/13 06:10 PM

You're right--never watched any of 'em!
Posted by: six_of_one

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/24/13 06:24 PM

Repo Man is a classic, IMHO -- saw it in the theater =)
Posted by: Pirate

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/24/13 06:34 PM

I saw Repo Man too not only a classic but a car flick too
Posted by: DLC

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/24/13 07:56 PM

How about Gigolo ??
Posted by: Jim_

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/24/13 09:19 PM

Loved Repo Man and Hedwig, never heard of 11:14.
Posted by: Jim_

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/24/13 09:38 PM

As long as we're out there;

The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert

and

To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar - Wesley Snipes, Patrick Swayze, and John Leguizamo like you've never seen them.
Posted by: MrB

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/24/13 10:46 PM

Yuck, just couldn't watch that last one.

Didnt care for repo man either . Just looked and it got 98% on Rotten tomatoes. Don't know why

Dave
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 12:18 AM

I've seen bits of Repo Man. Priscilla is a classic, Agent Smith is the lead character in that. My sister swears that Wong Foo movie is a classic.
Posted by: Pirate

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 06:00 AM

Originally Posted By: MrB
Yuck, just couldn't watch that last one.

Didnt care for repo man either . Just looked and it got 98% on Rotten tomatoes. Don't know why

Dave



Rotten tomatoes??? for that I watch...wait for it....attack of the killer tomatoes
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 06:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Jim_
As long as we're out there;

The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert

and

To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar - Wesley Snipes, Patrick Swayze, and John Leguizamo like you've never seen them.


Wong Foo-ey was a Bad Remake of Priscilla
(...but I suspect you already knew that)
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 07:13 AM



"Angel Heart" - showing This Month on ENCORE

Posted by: Nana

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 08:31 AM

Originally Posted By: DLC
How about Gigolo ??


Wasn't that Richard Gere's first movie?

Looking For Mr Goodbar his second?


laugh
Posted by: Nana

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 08:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Lea

I'll start with the three best ever ~



11:14

Scratching my head on that one. Never heard of it.
Posted by: Papa

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 08:45 AM

Billy the Kid vs. Dracula was a movie they showed us when I was in Vietnam. I don't remember if I watched much of the movie but there were several people who wanted to blow up the projector after it was done.
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 09:50 AM

Bambi vs. Godzilla--the original version. A classic.
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 10:35 AM

Originally Posted By: yoyo52
Bambi vs. Godzilla--the original version. A classic.


I'm absolutely astounded that with a taste like
that for Truly AWFUL Movies you never got into
shocked Mystery Science Theater 3000 laugh
Posted by: Jim_

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 11:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Celandine
Wong Foo-ey was a Bad Remake of Priscilla
(...but I suspect you already knew that)
Okay Ms. Threadkill, I don't agree at all. I liked them both. Both were movies about three people of alternative lifestyles on a road trip to a drag show. A remake in that sense but outside of that entirely different.

The Australian Priscilla was much more far-fetched as compared to the US Wong Foo. As in riding on top of the bus in the giant slipper, and their outlandish outfits. It was out there, I liked it, and I know movies aren't supposed to be reality, just comparing flicks. It was meant to be outrageous and lavish.

Wong Foo was real life, more of a comedy than meant to be outrageous like Priscilla, and I don't agree it was bad.
Posted by: DLC

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 11:11 AM

Watched Cloud Atlas .... and wished I hadn't ... crazy
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 12:22 PM

The book version of Cloud Atlas is very good. I didn't see the movie because I could not imagine how they'd translate the text into a visual counterpart.
Posted by: DLC

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/25/13 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: yoyo52
The book version of Cloud Atlas is very good. I didn't see the movie because I could not imagine how they'd translate the text into a visual counterpart.

THAT was the problem- they DIDN'T !! sick

Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/26/13 12:56 PM

I downloaded and watched Repo Man. I had never seen any of it before. I think I was confusing it with Remo Williams... blush

Warning, if this movie is on your to see list, there are spoilers below..

Anyway, I am not sure what I just saw. Maybe you had to see it back in the 80s or something. Maybe I would have loved it back then. I did like some stuff - Diuretics and all the generic product jokes.

Beyond that? This movie is called sci-fi because of that car, seemingly for lack of anything better to do with the plot. I don't mind that the special effects were cheesy, I get that it was deliberate, but... They run quickly from one side of town to the other looking haphazardly and half-heartedly for this car. And then the movie ends with some kind of Willy Wonka thing.. Don't get it. Obviously 98 percent of people see something I didn't.

I read reactions of people trying to make this movie deep, looking for post modernist elements and looking into the deeper meanings for example of having a woman who complained about her garbage being knocked over in one scene later appearing in a police station in another. Meaning? It was for lack of anything better to do in this plot. Emilio randomly taking off his pants and expecting sex? Different I'll admit, but funny? The two name actors did what was expected of them admirably but I guess I need more direction.

I should make it clear I usually LOVE these kinds of movies. It made me think of Eat and Run, one of my favorite "out there" movies, with Ron Silver. And it actually goes somewhere. Anyone seen that movie? Or Eating Raoul? Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, which was mentioned earlier I even preferred to this.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/26/13 01:01 PM

Turns out Eat and Run came out the same year. Maybe it's bad taste recommending another movie that reminds me of a better one but, well, I recommend it, if, um, you liked Repo Man. Talk about movies no one else saw. Rotten Tomatoes has NO rating. Ebert saw every film ever made I though, but I couldn't even find his comment on this one. A very rare one it seems.

Eat and Run

IMDB

Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/27/13 11:14 AM


HAROLD And MAUDE
IMDb link


<- WIKI KLIKY

"The film was critically and commercially unsuccessful on original release, but subsequently received critical and commercial success. The film is ranked number 45 on the American Film Institute's list of 100 Funniest Movies of all Time, and was selected for preservation in the National Film Registry of the Library of Congress in 1997 for being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant"."

"The movie ultimately developed a cult following and in 1983 began making a profit."



Professor.. A Lil Movie Music...plze smile

Don't Be Shy

If You Want To Sing Out

Trouble

Posted by: DLC

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/27/13 11:31 AM

Sorry missed your response...

actually it was American Gigolo... (sorry blush ) and he did Officer and a Gentleman right after that. crazy

oh well almost all actors have a few miss-ques !!
Amazingly some have very, very few... like Gregory Peck ! grin
Posted by: MrB

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/27/13 01:20 PM

killer tomatoes, was so cool. Crazy but cool. The guy dragging that parachute everywhere he went

Dave
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/28/13 04:28 AM

Harold and Maude was my favorite movie for years. Maybe it still is. Seen it a bajillion times. smile

Angel Heart is pretty darn good too.
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/28/13 08:51 AM

Originally Posted By: lanovami
Harold and Maude was my favorite movie for years. Maybe it still is. Seen it a bajillion times. smile

Angel Heart is pretty darn good too.


That Makes TWO (of us) grin grin

It's been & prolly still IS my Fave...
...luckily for us, it's finally been re-issued
on DVD and BlueRay... I'm still scoping it out. cool

Yar!!! "Angel Heart" is a piece o' work, ain't it? eek
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/28/13 09:43 AM


Coincidentally, another of my favorite movies
(that almost no one else saw) will be released
TOMORROW (August 29,2013) on DVD. It took
YEARS before Friedkin re-acquired ownership of
what he's always considered his MasterPiece.

SORCERER
IMDb Link

<-WIKI Kliky



Tangerine Dream - "Sorcerer" (The Full SoundTrack)
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/28/13 01:26 PM

Don't know why this keeps happening, but just like 2 weeks ago I sought out Sorcerer and watched it. Excellent movie. Yes, Tangerine Dream's sountrack really set the tone. Sorcerer is a bit of an off title for such a movie, but it settles in.

I am sure you know that the general consensus is that this movie might have been huge if it hadn't come out roughly the same time as Star Wars (which cost like half what Sorcerer did to make).
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/28/13 01:57 PM


grin Yeah...
...we gotta' stop meeting like this!

As I recall, you were also the only person here that
had even read "The Watchman" way-back-when.

Sorcerer:
The Plot Thickens

...and yes, about T-Dream...
IMDb tagged the Score as "Unique & Nightmarish"
I've seen T-Dream 7 or 8 times Live in concert.
Each movie score is unique to the project...
...but when my BF heard "Sorcerer" for the first
time it made him physically shutter. eek

You see, being too young for Nam.. he served his
time in the Panama Canal Zone... The first thing
he said was "OH GOD! They captured 'the FEEL' of
what it's like to be in an oppressive jungle..
...closing in from all sides... AND THE INSECTS!" cry

The noise surrounds you... permeates your very
thoughts... Day & Night... screeching parrots,
howling monkeys & the constant whine of INSECTS.

He said William Friedkin was spot-on capturing
the ever present rain & mud, sweat & stench of
mildew and rotting EVERYTHING---EVERYTHING!

Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/28/13 02:09 PM

All I watch is movies no one else watches… blush

I keep trying to tell y'all, you've got to see Queen of Outer Space.

Zsa Zsa's finest hour.
You can thank me later.
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/28/13 02:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Acumowchek
All I watch is movies no one else watches… blush

I keep trying to tell y'all, you've got to see Queen of Outer Space.

Zsa Zsa's finest hour.
You can thank me later.


Try again.
I've seen that as a kid.

Although all I can recall is the Guy who
went on to play the Trail Boss in "Rawhide"
(Eric Flemming") wink
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/29/13 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Acumowchek
All I watch is movies no one else watches… blush

I keep trying to tell y'all, you've got to see Queen of Outer Space.

Zsa Zsa's finest hour.
You can thank me later.


GAW!
That was so bad I was sure MST3K had done it,
but I don't see it among their Other 198 HORRIBLE Movies.

PlsyList:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjJV1I6uhyc&list=PL0y_pNxamlHSJuuOJUiy8-7p6z1ZTiVhH
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/29/13 05:21 PM

You're welcome! grin
Dahling!
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 08/29/13 06:48 PM

BY GOD!
I THINK I'VE GOT IT!
Another of My FAVORITE Movies
I'm pretty sure not even lanovami's seen laugh

My "Out There AND Over The Top" offering is**

Welcome To WOOP WOOP
IMDb Link

<-WIKI Kliky

(yes... that’s Rod "Mr. TIME MACHINE" Taylor)

"Woop Woop" is an Australian colloquialism referring to a
fictional location in the middle of nowhere...
...pretty much the equivalent of our "Bumfuk" grin

** Directed by Stephan Elliott
who'd also directed "Priscilla, Queen of the Desert"
BTW They were both INTENDED to be 'outrageous' wink
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 06/27/14 09:47 PM

You're right, Lea mentioned it above, and instead of Hedwig I went and watched Repo Man. I liked Hedwig a heck of a lot more than Repo Man. Come to think of it, I watched the second movie on Lea's list 11:14 as well, which was a pretty good flick, but never got around to Hedwig. Should've trusted her. smile
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 06/27/14 10:33 PM

Sorry Cel, never did watch Woop Woop.
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 06/28/14 05:59 AM

Originally Posted By: lanovami
Sorry Cel, never did watch Woop Woop.


'tsyer lucky day, mate! grin

Amazon.com has expanded into a new area...
...they offer a Hot-Off-The-Presses DVD copy
sent the same day of just about everything!

I'm going to check out another of their
Ozzy comedy recommendation "The Castle"
based soley upon the user ratings/comments. crazy


umm just checked
they have "Sorcerer" as well
Posted by: DLC

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ Pompeii - 06/28/14 06:10 AM

Got Pompeii from Netflix and thought it decent.. NOT Gladiator and somewhat predictable, BUT it was pretty realistic with the volcano scenes from what I've read about the event. The ending is also realistic (no give away) - i.e. no "Hollywood" ending.

Rotten Tomatoes (27%) panned it and it did poorly at the Box Office.

anyone else see it?
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 06/28/14 07:09 AM

TA!
Just ordered a used DVD copy of "Harold & Maude"

it's all I could afford atm blush


"Being There" & "The Party"
both with Peter Sellers!
Look 'em up if you have to... whistle
Posted by: Nana

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ Pompeii - 06/28/14 11:54 AM

Originally Posted By: DLC
Got Pompeii from Netflix and thought it decent.. NOT Gladiator and somewhat predictable, BUT it was pretty realistic with the volcano scenes from what I've read about the event. The ending is also realistic (no give away) - i.e. no "Hollywood" ending.

Rotten Tomatoes (27%) panned it and it did poorly at the Box Office.

anyone else see it?


I watched it last week. I thought it was pretty good once the volcano started doing its thing.
You're 120% correct about the ending. wink I thought it was fantastic.

Was in Pompeii back in 1968. That place is a sight to see. Not sure how it is now. Back in 68, one could walk all about the ruins & inside some of what was left of the homes. You could also walk right up the hard ashed covered bodies which were lying everywhere. Very treacherous walking too.
Posted by: DLC

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ Pompeii - 06/28/14 12:09 PM

I hope to visit Pompeii someday !! grin

Took Latin in HS, and Roman history is one of my favorites !!
Posted by: Lea

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 06/28/14 04:39 PM


OK, I'm gonna add The Pledge. Jack Nicholsan and Robin Wright. Hard to watch, but killer. If you can identify the bad buy from a very few scenes and connect him to a another seriously intense flick? We soooo need to start a club. No hints. Sorry

Damn, Lan, you never cease to amaze. Bet you hear that a lot?

;-)
LL
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 06/28/14 05:23 PM

I don't know if I amaze, but I wish I had tried out all three of your first suggests, because I'd have known about Hedwig that much earlier, and I am an instant fan. Best piece of entertainment I have seen in a heck of a long time time. The songs and the visuals really make it, but the story and exposition could be a lot worse.

I am on a movie watching binge recently. May have to check out Pledge. I've always liked Robin Wright, and I think I've heard of J. Nicholson. smile
Posted by: steveg

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 06/29/14 02:53 AM

My all-time fav: Kramer Vs. Kramer. 1979. Dustin Hoffman and Meryl Streep. I could watch it on a daily basis.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 06/30/14 12:12 PM

I heard about Kramer for years and years, but was too young to appreciate it likely in my younger years. I saw it a decade or so back. It is was pretty dang good, better than I expected.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 06/30/14 01:16 PM

Oh right, I watched The Pledge. I think the pacing of the movie, a deliberate slow exposition, is what makes the movie.

Click to reveal..
So at the end, are we supposed to think that he was imagining a lot of this? We are certainly expected to question it right? And how did Robin Wright figure out what he was doing out there hidden in the bushes? That part confused me a bit. Funny, I think the stereotype of most movies American movies having a happy ending is no longer supportable.
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 06/30/14 01:43 PM

Birdie Num Num? laugh

My parents took me to see The Party at a Drive-In when it first came out.
Little did they know I would torture them with saying Birdie Num Num for the next two months! laugh

Still a great movie!
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 06/30/14 02:30 PM


laugh That'll learn 'em! grin


but yeah
I saw it again more recently
and yes, it's still a good movie.

keep an eye out for "Being There"
it's a surprisingly profound movie.
Posted by: MacGizmo

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/01/14 02:59 AM

Can we include Porn in the list? wink
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/01/14 03:08 AM

No, for the simple reason that so few watch more than a few minutes of porn at a time.
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/01/14 11:50 AM

As you may have guessed, I'm an old horror movie fan, and Boris Karloff is at the top of my list. This isn't a Karloff movie, per se, but it is one of the most terrifying movies I've ever seen. I'm much more scared of reality than fantasy, and this one still gives me nightmares.

Peter Bogdanovich's first movie: Targets
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/01/14 05:21 PM


"Comedy of Terrors"

starring
Boris Karloff
Vincent Price
Peter Lorre
Basil Rathbone
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/01/14 05:39 PM


If you'll PARDON My "Gallows Humor"
I submit
Favorite Christmas Movie
Favorite Prison Break Movie
Favorite Black Comedy
...that almost nobody ever saw...

"We're No Angels"

starring
Humphrey Bogart
Peter Ustinov
Aldo Ray
Basil Rathbone
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/01/14 06:47 PM

Ha!
Love them both! grin
Posted by: musicalmarv7

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 03:18 AM

Great movie I like is Road to Perdition with Tom Hanks and Paul Newman. Excellent movie to view.
Posted by: Pirate

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 05:53 AM

Killer Tomatoes Eat France! by four square producions
Posted by: Nana

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 10:00 AM

Originally Posted By: musicalmarv7
Great movie I like is Road to Perdition with Tom Hanks and Paul Newman. Excellent movie to view.

I watched that movie the other night. Never heard of it previously. I was shocked that it starred Tom Hanks as I've never seen him play that type of character before. shocked Movie was really good, especially the ending.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 12:30 PM

The guy who wrote Road To Perdition, Max Allan Colins, is also a detective novel and comic book writer. He chose to never move to the east or west coast and still lives in his hometown. He lives literally 3 doors down from my father. Nice guy. I have an autographed copy of the graphic novel that the movie was based on.

He only started writing the novel because the Dick Tracy strip he was contracted to write ended and he needed another source of income. Best thing that ever happened to him he said.
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 12:59 PM


Now that you've peaked my curiosity
I'm going to have to look it up.
Perhaps I'll watch it as I convalesce.

Road To Perdition Trailer Original


I LOVE Tom Hanks!!!
He's shown himself to have a surprising range
when it comes to character portrayal.
HUGE Stretch between "Splash" & "Saving Private Ryan"!
...and "Lady Killers" is a GENIUS Remake.. PURE FUN!
Posted by: DLC

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 02:12 PM

Have that on my Netflix list... Netflix says " long wait"! mad
One of his more unorthodox roles and excellent!
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 02:36 PM

Tom Hanks on "Taxi".
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 03:43 PM

I never saw that episode!! LOL
Posted by: MrB

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 04:02 PM

Road to Perdition was different than many movies with same theme. I personally am really tired of movies with crooks and murderers and such being set up as the "good" guys fighting worse guys. Especially when they don't show how those good guys are bad in the first place but just slightly mention it.

In Perdition, they make no excuses for Hanks character, he is definitely a cold blooded murderer, but out on a mission. Pray tell, the did rather show Al Capone as possible savior for him. That was strange.

I liked it. Good period drama

Dave
Posted by: MrB

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 04:21 PM

This afternoon I watched part of a movie, "Brave Warrior" staring Jay Silverheels and Michael Ansara. A 1952 western about the Shawnee Tecumseh and the Battle of Tippecanoe . Around the start of war of 1812

Stared other white people but watched it because of these two actors. It had so many historical errors that I just couldn't watch it . Compounded by the grade B production.
Most glaring is their portrayal of Tecumseh being on the American sides wanting peace when he actually supported the British along with organizing the other nations against the whites. Hmmm.

Funny to see a gunfight where they were able to quickly fire muskets without the laborious muzzle loading . Then the scene where the star white guy blew up a bridge with very small bag of loose powder. It would have only caught fire and burned as it was loose. Pluse he lighted the fuse with a match that wouldn't have been in use for another 35 years. Added to the scene showing the Shawnee living in skin covered Tipis instead of round domed bark roofed Wigwahms in semi permanent settlements. Oh they were dressed like Sioux also

But who notices these things

Dave
Posted by: Jim_

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 09:20 PM

Originally Posted By: MrB
It had so many historical errors that I just couldn't watch it…etc etc
Well, there you go again. [/Reagan]

It was a movie from 1952 Dave. Just sit back, enjoy, and get lost in the moment they are presenting.

I don't get your obsession with factuality in movies, most are meant to be entertainment, not documentaries. Artistic license and all.

Sigh.
Posted by: MrB

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/02/14 09:52 PM

I also have a problem with the style of acting and production in the older movies. I did when I was a kid also.

Not all movies of the 60's are that way but most of the ones in the '50's were. I checked the lead actor. I had not heard of him but he had been busy as an actor during his career . During the two years this movie was made, 51 and 52, this actor did five films. No wonder they were like they were mostly the same. They were the same.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 02:49 AM

Well, I hate it when the movie gets all the credit, cuz the graphic novel is exactly like that. A truly great read.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 03:38 AM

And FWIW Mr. B, Road to Perdition was loosely based on a crime syndicate based in the Quad Cities (just north of where I am from on the Iowa/Illinois border. There was a crime boss and a betrayed underling etc. He took history and used creative license to create a story.
Posted by: musicalmarv7

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 03:38 AM

Excellent cast and story plot. Hanks is a sure winner here.
Posted by: DLC

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 05:53 AM

I know where you're coming from Dave and agree! Ruins the whole thing. That condition is what I term "cheesy" !! Grossly inaccurate to the point of ridiculous!

Remember when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? laugh
Posted by: MrB

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 11:16 AM

People always say, just enjoy the story as it's not meant to be accurate . And that is true in many instances. Actually, I rather get a kick out of looking for miscues in a film, continuity, I think it's called. But if a film is specifically portraying a part of history or person, or situation, it should be accurate as possible.

I enjoy history. I don't claim to be an expert but I like to learn and when I am wrong I like to investigate. If it's the human interaction that is the substance of the story, then be realistic in that depiction .if these issues become to incorrect, then it merges into becoming like a cartoon, like the old Road Runner with bizarre acts of physics.

We enjoy period pieces like Road to Perdition. I liked the play on words, first off. We like the old cars wich played a big role in the film. I'm not so much a car buff but were the cars, used in the film, legitimate for the time. Someone who is a vintage car buff would be interested to check on this and if they were using a 1938 car in the film which, as I believe, depicted prohibition then that is an error some might have issue with.

I've started becoming interested in history of under garments and other clothing ( don't laugh). Today I'm watching a Gene Hackman and Candace Bergen, film about a long distance horse race called "Bite the Bullet". In it a prostitute just removed what appeared to be a modern style bra. The didn't wear them in 1906. But who would notice that. It's not enough to mess up the film but just a thing. But in all westerns, the clothing is mostly wrong along with hair styles . We are used to this, but what if they put Candace Bergen in a miniskirt to wear on that horse in 1906. Would people think that was too far fetched?

It's all a matter of degrees

Dave
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 11:23 AM

I would watch Candace Bergen horse racing in a miniskirt. shocked
(Don't judge me…) blush
Posted by: MrB

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 11:25 AM

Ah, yes. Or even with out the mini skirt

Dave
Posted by: DLC

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 11:40 AM

I really hate the historical dramas which try to make a hero out of a scumbag or villain. mad American westerns tend to do that with many from folklore !
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 01:13 PM

I just noticed that Taxi / Tom Hanks clip. I watched the whole thing. Likely a very early Hanks role eh? Pretty good. Marijuana the gateway drug. Jim tries the pot brownie and feels an immediate reaction, hmmmm... now there's an inaccuracy. Should take at least 30 minutes.. smile
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 01:39 PM

Great series and episode.
According to IMDB, 1982. This was after Bossom Buddies, which I personally couldn't watch… tongue
Posted by: drjohn

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Acumowchek
I would watch Candace Bergen horse racing in a miniskirt. shocked
(Don't judge me…) blush


Me too! Nice avatar, by the way! cool
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 02:46 PM

That's a pretty nice compliment… For a curmudgeon. grin wink
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 04:02 PM


Just to show to go that you don't gotta' look
like John Wayne, Tom Cruise, ...or Brad Pitt to
be worth watching, may I forward a couple odd
"movie stars" that don't fit the expected mold:

Is anyone else into Gary Oldman?

BTW...
Brad Pitt (in spite of his pretty-boy looks) like
Johnny Depp, has become A Hellovan Actor having
taken a few REALLY out of the ordinary parts
---I'm thinking like "12 Monkeys"

but I'm actually replying to Mr. B

Another of my favorite actors is Dustin Hoffman
and perhaps my favorite is "Little Big Man"

My question is
IYO, How Historically Accurate do you reckon it is?
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 04:55 PM

Gary Oldman? An actors actor. Everyone loved the characters, without realizing it was the same person playing them. Love him.

12 Monkeys? Yep, Brad Pitt was great, but I think that's because of Terry Gilliams direction.

Little Big Man? Doesn't need to be accurate. Epic entertainment, IMHO.

Mr. B? Love to get your opinion on that…
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 07:08 PM


Good.. I wasn't really sure if anyone else was
paying attention (giving Gary his just desserts)




Terry Gilliam was one of many directors
tapped to do "The Watchmen".

He put himself out of the running before
he even started when he submitted his
unique concepts that would have made the
movie even more outstanding than it was,
his proposal was tremendously over-budget
and way way beyond the shooting schedule.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 07:41 PM

I would never have suspected that that Taxi appearance was after Bosom Buddies. I am a bit younger than most on this forum, and I remember Bosom Buddies well, but I was too young to know good from bad TV then. I tried to watch an episode online a few years back. It was hard to watch.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 07:54 PM

I don't many would deny Oldman's ability to disappear into a character. His recent right wing comments aside, I respect the man a lot.

Cel, I've seen Little Big Man possibly more than any human alive. There was a period where my family moved out to the country and had little money and we only got PBS. I would watch a lot of PBS and a few movies we had on video tape A LOT. Little Big Man was one of them. I became more interested in Custer from that movie and I read up on him, and there is little to no evidence to suggest he was like the man he was portrayed as in the movie. Wikipedia refers to it as a revisionist Western. Still loved the movie though.
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 07:57 PM

"his proposal was tremendously over-budget
and way way beyond the shooting schedule."

Sounds like every movie he's ever made!
Great documentary of his attempt to film Don Quixote.
Lost in La Mancha
Highly recommended.

The series Taxi? Low budget TV, but a stellar cast, writers and producers.
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/03/14 07:59 PM

"Revisionist Western"?
Aren't they all? grin
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 02:31 AM


lol
yeah, Richard Mulligan's "GACuster"
was a smidge too "Bert" from "Soap" crazy
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 03:19 AM

I wonder if I would enjoy Soap if I watched it again. I remember every episode started with a "last time on Soap segment" that were fast paced and entertaining all of themselves. You needed them to keep up with all the crazy goings on in that show that's for sure.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 04:06 AM

Now, you've got me thinking about Soap. If this show wasn't ahead of it's time what was? Here is a classic clip I found. Way ahead on dealing with the fact that gay people existed and they weren't going anywhere.

Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 06:56 AM

About historical "truth" in films or books--any time history is put into some sort of narrative (with a beginning, middle and end) "history" is being falsified, or rather is being made into a story. I'd recommend Hayden White's Metahistory for the argument.

To make a story more or less attention-grabbing or dramatic or whatever you want to call it, authors manipulate facts. Constructing a drama about the fall of Richard II and the rise of Henry IV and Henry V, Shakespeare was faced with the unfortunate fact that his hero, Prince Hal/Henry V, was 22 years younger than the antagonist, Henry Percy, aka Hotspur. So Shakespeare erases the difference in ages in order to highlight the contest between the two men. The historical fact disappears and the dramatic power becomes that much greater.

One more thing happens: for the average human being, the story becomes the "truth." Historical "fact" is simply overwritten by the imaginative reconstruction of the fact. If you don't believe me, go ahead and ask someone who is not a member of the Richard III Society what kind of guy Richard III was. smile
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 08:08 AM



“Myth is much more important and true than history.
History is just journalism and you know how reliable that is.”


- Joseph Campbell
Posted by: DLC

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 08:47 AM

Loved E Flynn in They Died with Their Boots On, but it was BS about his last stand. He was a "hot dog" (& last in his class at W Point) and it finally caught up with him!

No doubt politics probably played a part in why Indians had declared war, but Custer screwed up badly by underestimating the strength of the enemy and splitting his forces.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 05:04 PM

I did some re-reading about Custer. He was quite impetuous and daring to the point of being dangerous, but very effective. He was also very concerned with his personal appearance and his portrayal in the media. All of this was shown pretty well in Little Big Man, which I never noticed until the thread came up probably sounds deliberately like Little Big Horn.
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 05:43 PM

And you know who played Custer in Little Big Man?
None other than Richard Mulligan, from Soap.
Funny how it all ties together! cool

Edit: OOPS, Cel beat me too it! blush
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 06:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Acumowchek
And you know who played Custer in Little Big Man?
None other than Richard Mulligan, from Soap.
Funny how it all ties together! cool

Edit: OOPS, Cel beat me too it! blush

Iz OK... grin

"Sometime the magic works...
...sometime it don't.
"


-Chief Dan George
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 06:07 PM


sorry the thread morphed into a "Soap" Opera...

Actually, my question to Mr. B was about The Life Style
of Native Americans, and how their CULTURE was portrayed
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 06:15 PM

I had a "Soap" hour last night and watched a bunch of stuff. Though it caused a lot of controversy, it is consistently rated in the top shows of TV by many critics.

Having said that: I never thought about it, but the wiki article points out that Jodie, the gay character, played by that actor, what's his name? wink had few scenes with other men, always kept a respectful distance and dated several women in the course of the show.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 06:25 PM

By the way, Cel, I thought I should procure Woop Woop, as much as we agree on movies and the like. I will let you know what I think. smile
Posted by: MrB

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 07:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Celandine

sorry the thread morphed into a "Soap" Opera...

Actually, my question to Mr. B was about The Life Style
of Native Americans, and how their CULTURE was portrayed


I'm sure I've seen Little Big Man but truthfully can't remember any of it. As for Custer , I believe his tried to control the myth around his Legend. His "battle" of Wash ita was pretty much a massacre but not rather like the Comanchee did to the other tribes. We tend to lump all the Indians as one group but the individual tribes warred against each other for their entire existence.

Dave
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 08:07 PM

"Individual tribes warred against each other for their entire existence."

Same as it ever was… frown
Same as it ever was… frown
Same as it ever was… frown

Same as it ever was… frown
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 08:47 PM

Well . . . how did I get here?
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/04/14 10:32 PM

This is not my beautiful wife...

There's a song I liked (and it was one of the first videos on MTV when they only had 5 or so. ) And this keeps comin up, but I didn't really "get" the song then. Years later when I got a life and family of my own, it all made sense.
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/05/14 06:23 AM

The film of Stop Making Sense is great, I think.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/06/14 01:27 AM

Cel, I watched Woot Woot. In the first 15 minutes, I was sure I wasn't going to like it, but it's gentle quirkiness started to grow on me.

Click to reveal..
I liked a lot of it, and it definitely felt Australian, not going out of it's way to overtell the story, and not afraid to take it slow, and show their lives more than tell a straightforward story. I also liked that no New York goons came to track him down, which would be a foregone conclusion in an American movie. I found the ending very unsatisfying though. They briefly mention that mystic Kangaroo, to set it up for later when he seems to save the protagonists. But I wasn't into the chase scene anyway, and the Kangaroo was very forced. I think they would have had a better movie doing something more with the subplot of the higher up men hoarding goods and watching broadcast TV and the fact and whether or not his the shotgun wife (forgot her name) was pregnant. Ah well. smile
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/06/14 07:22 AM

Originally Posted By: lanovami
Cel, I watched Woot Woot. In the first 15 minutes, I was sure I wasn't going to like it, but it's gentle quirkiness started to grow on me.

Click to reveal..
I liked a lot of it, and it definitely felt Australian, not going out of it's way to overtell the story, and not afraid to take it slow, and show their lives more than tell a straightforward story. I also liked that no New York goons came to track him down, which would be a foregone conclusion in an American movie. I found the ending very unsatisfying though. They briefly mention that mystic Kangaroo, to set it up for later when he seems to save the protagonists. But I wasn't into the chase scene anyway, and the Kangaroo was very forced. I think they would have had a better movie doing something more with the subplot of the higher up men hoarding goods and watching broadcast TV and the fact and whether or not his the shotgun wife (forgot her name) was pregnant. Ah well. smile


The title is "Welcome To Woop Woop"...
and I asked Treebeard when we first met 12 years ago,
Had he ever seen it, to which he replied, "'SEEN IT'?!?
I LIVE in Woop Woop, & Out Passed the Black Stump!" shocked

I later found that Woop-Woop is Aussie for Middle of Nowhere.

Didn't need any more delving into than the asbestos
mine that was killing Ol' Ginger ("s'cuse the breezes")
all that was needed was to touch lightly upon each component
rather than laboriously grinding 'em into the ground,
...without furthering the story.
Click to reveal..

If you'd watched The CREDITS you would have seen
the answer to your last question. wink
..also that in "Meatworldia"; Ginger & Daddy-O
(Maggie Kirkpatrick & Rod Taylor) were actually man & spouse.

Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/06/14 01:24 PM

Click to reveal..
I did watch til after the credits. I always check these days. Yes, he had kids supposedly, but again, I didn't find that so satisfying. Still glad I watched it though.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/06/14 01:26 PM

We've probably done this one, but anyone seen Muriel's Wedding? It's another Australian gem, the movie that helped make Toni Colette famous outside of Australia. I love the stuffings out of that one. Seen it 5 or 6 times.
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/06/14 02:15 PM

Picnic at Hanging Rock--I remember seeing it in the Orson Welles, down Mass Ave a bit from Harvard Square. I don't want to repeat the experience! And then there was Derzu Uzala, which took something like 30 minutes to allow the audience to contemplate the landscape of the Asian steppes. And that was like nothing in comparison to the hours that I spent watching Aguirre watch a river flow by in Aguirre the Wrath of God.

The best part of Picnic at Hanging Rock was when someone in the audience broke out in gales of laughter as one of the characters peeled and then ate a banana. smile
Posted by: musicalmarv7

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/07/14 03:46 AM

Jimmy Stewart one great actor that in today's films no one can even come close to.
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/07/14 01:24 PM

I looked up Picture At Hanging Rock because it sounded familiar. I think I saw chunks of it on cable a few years ago. It reads like it is a dramatization of actual events, but from the wiki article I don't think it was. That would make it pretty tedious to watch I think.
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/07/14 04:01 PM

It's a very moody film, lan. All mood. And tediously building it up is what makes it drag and drag. So the banana laughter was definitely the best part. smile
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/08/14 01:45 AM

Timing is so strange. Hadn't seen Perdition in ages, and then it was on cable just now when I got home from work. I watched it likely for only the second time. As I have read the graphic novel probably 4 or 5 times, I got it in my head there were more similar.

However, they are a lot of differences. The big difference for me is that Paul Newman's character is a much more sympathetic character than in the graphic novel. It is a good movie, very well done, even the stuff they changed or added was quite good in it's own right. But I highly recommend going on Amazon and finding a used copy of the graphic novel. The artwork is amazingly good, all black and white. There was a twist at the end of the novel that I absolutely love that I now see was taken out of the movie. Read it and see. Any takers?
Posted by: lanovami

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/08/14 01:47 AM

I should have added, this is not the time or money investment something like Game of Thrones would be. It is one graphic novel that would take you two hours to read if you took your time. C'mon, any takers? Maybe Curtis, but perhaps he has read it already. The artwork alone is worth a look.

Amazon is selling it used for a buck fifty.
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/08/14 06:34 AM

"any takers?"

I'll put it on my list! smile
Posted by: MrB

Re: Movies nobody else watched ~ - 07/08/14 10:29 AM

Yes, I will look into it. I did think the ending of the film was just to convenient

Dave