Sly dogs

Posted by: yoyo52

Sly dogs - 08/20/13 12:09 PM

Or just plain old dogs. ATT has a new program called ATT Next. It allows you to trade in an old phone every year, with no upgrade or activation fee and no money up front. Instead, you pay the cost of the phone over a 20-month period. The slyness comes in when you look at the per month cost. For an iPhone 5, you pay 27 per month. Over 20 months that adds up to . . . wait for it . . . wait for it . . . 540 bucks, which is just shy of the full cost of the phone without the discount you get if you re-up for a 2-year contract. Doing a new 2-year contract reduces the cost of the iPhone 5 to 200 bucks, and the activation fee is 36 bucks. So Next allows you to have a new phone yearly, and for that privilege you pay an extra 300 bucks. What a deal!
Posted by: steveg

Re: Sly dogs - 08/20/13 03:45 PM

Most of the big carriers are moving in that direction now and finding new fees by the nickel and dime because new subscriptions are flattening out and they're looking for new revenue streams.

But y'know, there are a gazillion customers out there who must have the latest and greatest whether it adds value or not. Gotta love that *cough* low-hanging fruit. *gag* sick
Posted by: Jim_

Re: Sly dogs - 08/20/13 05:31 PM

I was wondering about opting out of the 20 month contract when your year came up. One site says you would have to pay the remainder of the contract to get a new phone.

Another says you could add the last 8 months on to the new contract. Either way it's full price.

One of the links says that the extra cost for the 8 months is about the same as their early termination fee anyway, they're just marketing it now to make it not look like a penalty.
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Sly dogs - 08/20/13 05:43 PM

Now Sean over at FB says that it's best to buy your phone without a contract--somehow or other you pay full price for the phone, but the monthly charges for the wireless connection is less than it is under the two year contract. Adding up the difference over the course of two years, you save about 600 bucks over that period of time. I've never figured out how an unlocked phone works, though. I guess you have to arrange to get a carrier without a contract?
Posted by: steveg

Re: Sly dogs - 08/21/13 02:56 AM

Where are those free Obama phones? Huh? HUH??? confused
Posted by: DLC

Re: Sly dogs - 08/21/13 02:56 PM

We need Obama to pass the ACPA !!!

(Affordable Cell Phone Act !!) wink
Posted by: Jim_

Re: Sly dogs - 08/21/13 06:08 PM

Originally Posted By: yoyo52
Now Sean over at FB says that it's best to buy your phone without a contract--somehow or other you pay full price for the phone, but the monthly charges for the wireless connection is less than it is under the two year contract. Adding up the difference over the course of two years, you save about 600 bucks over that period of time. I've never figured out how an unlocked phone works, though. I guess you have to arrange to get a carrier without a contract?
Good questions. I am ready to drop the landline so I was going call anyway. I rang my friendly neighborhood ATT 611. Thx cool

I knew about unlocked phones but not Sean's idea.

An unlocked phone can be used with any carrier. IOW if you bought your phone from ATT you can legally unlock it. IOW if it's out of contract/paid for. You can then use it with TMobile for example, which uses the same technology/towers as ATT. Unlocking is different from jailbreak BTW.

As far as Bring Your Own Phone I had never researched that. ATT offers BYOP prepaid (monthly) plans, as opposed to contracts which are postpaid (monthly) plans that you don't bring your own phone to, but on the postpaid they lock you into a contract with the "free" (at the time) phone. With the prepaid plan you do get a "substantial" discount on a new phone, after 2 years.

A BYOP prepaid plan, Unlimited minutes, unlimited text, and 2G data is only $60 a month. Right now I'm paying $70 for 450 minutes, 20 per text plan that I'm always at around $10 on, 3G data, which I don't get close to, but do go over the stock 300M a month at times so for $10 more it's worth it.

The same plan under contract would be $95. It's just a matter of coming up with the $700 ahead of time for a iPhone 5x that is coming out soon as opposed to paying more over the next two years. My buyout on my contract for 10 months is about $200. With the unlimited cell plan I can drop my landline. $10 less for all I can eat cell, + $40 less for landline. I can sell my pristine always in an OtterBox under AppleCare till June 4S for around $4-500 on ebay.

This was all at first quick check, I'll have to double check tomorrow, but it seems that BYOP is a lot cheaper than financing your phone through the carrier.
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Sly dogs - 08/21/13 07:14 PM

What if you've got a family plan? I'm running 3 phones on the family plan with ATT, and one of the numbers is still on the limitless data plan that ATT offered way back when the iPhone first came out. My son has that number, and he depends on that limitless data like a lifeline--I checked this month's usage and he's already at over 2 gigs, with 19 days left on the month. We have limitless text as well. The cost is over 3 times the 60 you mention, but the limitless data would add up to the difference, I think.
Posted by: Jim_

Re: Sly dogs - 08/21/13 08:01 PM

At around $180+ you're probably best where you're at now. Click. You'd lose that unlimited data plan.
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Sly dogs - 08/21/13 08:09 PM

If ATT ever gets rid of unlimited data then it's a different story. It's strange. I signed up for the 2 gig data for my iPhone while they still had that, and I'm grandfathered into it. If I ever change, though, that option is gone.
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: Sly dogs - 08/22/13 04:45 AM

Originally Posted By: yoyo52
If ATT ever gets rid of unlimited data then it's a different story. It's strange. I signed up for the 2 gig data for my iPhone while they still had that, and I'm grandfathered into it. If I ever change, though, that option is gone.


I had unlimited data till last month. I switched my wife and I to 3 GBs shared with unlimited phone and text. About $150.00
Posted by: Jim_

Re: Sly dogs - 08/22/13 04:52 AM

With both of those grandfathered plans, your situation is different.