Natural gas p/u truck

Posted by: Papa

Natural gas p/u truck - 08/02/13 01:17 AM

Saw a new F150 that had been converted to natural gas/gasoline. It had a 25 gallon tank mounted in the bed of the truck and was covered by a rubber mat. The truck gets 16 mpg in either mode but the natural gas is $1.00 per gallon if you can find it. Some of the truck stops have natural gas for the large trucks but the connectors will not fit the ones in the p/u. The truck was purchased in Oklahoma. They will give you a rebate of $9000 to cover the cost of the conversion. The driver said that one other state gives the rebate but he couldn't remember which one. I like the idea of the conversion but it might be awhile before it is practical on a large scale.
Posted by: John Rougeux

Re: Natural gas p/u truck - 08/02/13 11:11 AM

I didn't know they were already coming out, just read that they were going to be available on the F150 yesterday.

Talked to my dad about it and he thinks that since natural gas doesn't have the BTU's like gas, the power won't be there. Wonder how it does trying to tow or haul stuff?

And if the tank is in the bed, that takes away some of the space. hmmmm
Posted by: Stumpy1

Re: Natural gas p/u truck - 08/02/13 11:23 AM

Thought about buying a natural gas-powered Accord a few years ago, but there was not a single public natural gas station in the U.P.. frown
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: Natural gas p/u truck - 08/02/13 11:30 AM

Back in the 80s a buddy of mine had a van that ran on propane. It ran fine and had decent power.. and was cheap. I didn't like the fact that he had taken out the seats for space and i had to sit on the tank which was mounted to the floor. I think he had it mounted inside because it was pretty big... I'm guess maybe 100 gallons. Probably so he could go long distances with propane stations being so infrequent.
Yeah.. I'm looking at my 90 gallon fish tank and that looks to be about the same size as the tank in his van.
Back to the power issue... he lived on top of a 1 mile high mountain and it got up there every day with no issues.
Posted by: Pirate

Re: Natural gas p/u truck - 08/03/13 12:17 AM

There is one natural gas compressed gas station with in a 200 miles radius of me, Springfield MO, according to a recent story on TV the station was built for 1.4 million for the city government but the city allows citizens to purchase the compressed LP gas at 1.10 a gallon
Posted by: Papa

Re: Natural gas p/u truck - 08/03/13 12:45 AM

I got a chance to talk to the p/u owner again and asked him about the power. He said the natural gas was fine for the hauling of regular sized loads but he had to switch to regular gas when he hauled a trailer with several thousand pounds of weight in it from Joplin, Mo. to Hannibal, Mo. There are lots of steep hills on that particular stretch of highway.

There was a p/u equipped with a propane tank that went through one of those small car washes with a brush that washed the truck. The brush knocked the valve of the tank and the explosion leveled the car wash and damaged a lot of homes in the area. That was in the 80's when propane conversions were popular.

One of the reasons the pumping stations for natural gas are so expensive is the cost of the equipment to compress the gas. The pressure has to be a lot higher than the 6 psi required for natural gas in the home.

It loks like it will be awhile before the conversion will be practical for most people.
Posted by: Celandine

Re: Natural gas p/u truck - 08/03/13 03:57 AM

The effect of "Fuel-Switching" on greenhouse gasses/global warming

note that estimated that leakage from gas infrastructure is likely to be underestimated. These studies indicate that the exploitation of natural gas as a "cleaner" fuel is questionable.

..and that study was done prior to the studies
the effect "Fracking" has regarding methane leakage.

Natural Gas isn't the savior of mankind it was
once hoped it would be, methane is a more
powerful greenhouse gas than Co2 emitting gasolene.