CaseCom,<br><br>I certainly respect your opinion and that of yoyo52 regarding the movie.<br><br>Still haven't seen it. Am beginning to believe I won't, nor the next two movies either.<br><br>I've literally read hundreds of reviews on the Inet of the movie by now. I think I knew the screen play's plot before the movie was shown. Most of the well known books written about the movie were written by members of The Tolkien Society
.<br><br>Actually the plot, some of the more interesting features, etc. were in wide circulation last summer.<br><br>I've probably read LOTR three dozen times, the Hobbit several dozen times, The History of Middle Earth twice, the Silmarillion maybe five times, etc. etc. for The Lost Tales and The Unfinished Tales, Farmer Giles of Ham and Tom Bombadil. The "number of readings" is a wild guess. I would challenge yoyo52
, for example, to try to guess how many times he's read Beowulf
or Canterbury Tales
<br><br>My generation, the 1960's, "discovered" Tolkien. There probably wasn't an English major on the campus, probably not one in the Humanities, that didn't have some rag tag paperback copy of something by the Professor with us at all times. The English department had about ten "clubs." One for example had members who enjoyed reading Chaucer aloud to the others. The Tolkien Club had 100 times as many members as the other clubs combined. No course of any kind was offered in the Department in those days on Tolkien.<br><br>With yoyo52's "reminder" I did dig around and discover that I first read Sir Gawain and the Green Knight
translation by Tolkien, his translation of Beowulf
, and I believe that's when I first encountered The Monsters and the Critics
which yoyo52 mentions as useful in his classes on Beowulf
. I don't think it was a text in the course (two actually) I had but I stumbled onto it in the library and later bought it.<br><br>My best, "reading set" of LOTR and Hobbit is a four volume set published by Urwin in the UK in the 1970's. It's very nice and was a special editon. Over Christmas my mother found a three volume set of LOTR in paperback that was extremely worn and obviously well read. From the date of printing, and from the location, The Grandchildren's Room, I know it belonged to one of my three kids. It's possible all three may have shared it. I still have the original paperbacks of three of the four which I purchased in the 1960's. They're disintegrating.
<br><br>Coincidentally I purchased one of the $70. single-volume (red cover) copies of LOTR in an after Christmas sale maybe ten years ago at B. Dalton. (Don't ask what I was doing in a B. Dalton.) I thought it would make a nice future gift and it still sits on my bookshelve sealed in some plastic covering. The "sale" price was $15.00. It's the same one you mention. Dozens are for sale all the time on eBay, The Tolkien Society stocks it, Amazon & BN have it, etc. It's been rather popular and appears to be of very high quality.<br><br>Sounds like all you have to do is get on my Christmas gift list.
<br><br>Actually I'm saving it for my grandchildren. I've been buying a number of books post-Christmas when I find them on sale, Tolkien and others. I don't recall seeing that later edition of the one I have offered at a specal price, although you might want to check one of the many booksellers who list on eBay or the "used" (often new) listings on Amazon. The latter place is where I've bought many books. Many times booksellers around the country will undercut Amazon's price and list it in the "used" section. See the same page on Amazon where a book is listed and click on the "buy it used" link. I bought/ordered a very nice looking copy, this one slightly used, of Joyce's Ulysses
in hardback today. The price was less than that for the paperback.
<br><br>I usually only buy special order books from Amazon and BN anymore. I often special order from Fatbrain because their service is better than BN (which owns Fatbrain.com). I've started buying virtually everything "buy it used" on Amazon or on eBay. I normally buy only from booksellers which can be recognized by their user name or list of other books for sale. Both sites have rating systems.<br><br>I've given up on Amazon and Yahoo Auctions. eBay is the best place in the world IMO to buy first editions which I collect for 20th century English fiction and poetry. You learn who the reliable sellers are and I never buy anything without using PayPal which "insures" I'll get the item described. I've spent a good deal of my life haunting book shops on the left and right coasts for books. The ones in California are now much better than they were, but I still find the shops in New England the best place to find rare books in a first edition, first issue copy.<br><br>Houghton Mifflin has a set of hardback LOTR (don't recall if Hobbit too) that is of good quality. Probably the best place to shop for really nice quality copies is The Tolkien Society. If nothing else you can use their description to search on BN or Amazon. They have at least three very nice editions on their present list, as well as several of "standard" quality like the Houghton Mifflin. The Brits seem to have a greater interest in quality books than we do and the Society has always had high quality editions.<br><br>I received a book from the Society yesterday, a rare (especially in the U.S.) first edition of Vol. 8 from The History of Middle Earth in UK first edition. My twelve volume set is now short only two in the UK version, but they are rapidly becoming collector's items. Both the US and UK set of all twelve volumes is available in the very high quality three volume set (the History) on eBay at prices which are sometimes quite good. I have both of these two sets. But I'm not really a serious Tolkien collector and don't know if I want to pay the price for the two missing volumes from the 12 volume UK set. I also have the 12 volume US set.<br><br>As mentioned, the red special edition you've looked at appears to be of very good quality. With the plastic wrapping on it I can't tell what the actually cover material is but it does appear to be very nice.<br><br>But the movie? I don't know. I continue to procrastinate. I belong to one of the Tolkien forums and have two college students, both young women, who badger me every time I post about going to see the movie. Both are intent on rescuing me from the perfidy of my ways.
And they are very
devoted fans. One is majoring in Anglo-Saxon and I think has read more translations of Beowulf
than I knew existed. I've lost the URL, unfortunately, but one of her professors has a two year old child
who can recite Beowulf
. In the original
.<br><br>The web site is really quite remarkable. I'd intended to post it for the benefit of yoyo52
because I thought he'd be interested. Remarkable. I have two bright grandsons, age 4, who enjoy retrieving the "book of Mr. Sam" (Life on the Mississippi
) for me to read to them, but they're not exactly quoting lengthy passages from it. And Sam Clemens didn't write in Old English.
<br><br>Your girlfriend had no fear of the massed hordes of Orcs?
<br><br>Am told that and Gandalf doing combat with the Balrog is a bit distressing to some. I picked up a very nice graphic of that scene somewhere and sometimes use it for my desktop pattern.<br><br>128k_Mac<br><br>The box said "Requires Microsoft Windows or better" so I bought a Macintosh.