The White Trash Birthright

Posted by: Anonymous

The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 11:53 AM

The noise-making death machine: the ATV:<br><br><img src=http://www.honda.co.uk/atv/products/medium/cutoutTrx4004wdAtRed.jpg><br><br><br><br>
Posted by: OSXaddict

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 11:59 AM

Do a lot of people ride those in South Carolina?<br><br>Kentucky is making a law (hopefully) that will restrict the age limit and for those at a certain age, restrict the speed of them.<br><br>They do have uses....usually on farms.<br><br>
Posted by: Celandine

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 12:20 PM

Them and snowmobiles have become a serious problem in ecologically <br>sensitive areas, but I'm not so sure if that's what you're talking about.<br><br><br>
Posted by: sean

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 12:55 PM

ooooh, oooh . . . we had one when i was growing up (out in the country in kansas). great times; though, our neighbors were far enough away that noise wasn't an issue. oh, and my brother and i didn't die on it. <br><br>--<br>"I am mindful that diversity is one of the strengths of the country" --president bush on 9/27/05
Posted by: OSXaddict

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 01:07 PM

Wait...then you must be white trash! <br><br>Stereotyping is dumb in my opinion.<br><br>
Posted by: lanovami

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 03:20 PM

Ooh, don't get me started. I have had long discussions in my time with friends about the our personal definition of white trash. What do people here think? And if you are born white trash, can you transcend it, or are you always so?<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
Posted by: carp

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 03:56 PM

Why bother having long discussions ? ?<br><br>Heres the definition <br>[color:blue]white trash noun informal offensive poor white people, esp. those living in the southern U.S.</font color=blue> <-- end story enough said<br><br>However Wikipedia has a bit more info;<br>[color:blue]From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<br>White trash is an American ethnic slur with a social class component. It is comparable to "honky" in that it is targeted toward white people, but also carries an allegation of low social status. To call someone "white trash" is to accuse that person of being bankrupt of cultural endowment. "White trash" is not a demographic group recognized by sociology, and the phrase is offensive. Attitudes toward the phrase have softened somewhat in recent years, to the degree that some people describe themselves as "white trash", and there is a genre of rock music known proudly as "white-trash rock", but the phrase is still never found in polite contexts. "White trash" often carries associations with poverty, but not always.<br>"White trash" are perceived as having crude manners, abnormally low moral standards, and lack of cultured behavior and/or education. This group is "America's poorest and most disparaged and despised category of whiteness" (Berger 2000, p. 284). By the Fussell categorization of social class, most of these people would rank in the low and middle "prole" class. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, "white trash" first came into common use in the 1830s as a pejorative used by the slaves of upper-class Southerners, often plantation aristocrats, against poor whites, below even the status of yeomen, who worked in the fields; at the time, it was synonymous with the slurs "sand hiller" and "clay eater"; "white trash" were (hyperbolically) assumed to farm ineptly on poor land and therefore resort to eating clay in order to survive. The term involves both behavioral characteristics (such as mannerisms, lifestyle) and overt racial characteristics (whiteness). The term is widely used across the United States, not only in the South, Appalachia, and Midwest, but also in East and West Coast cities like New York and Los Angeles, as a shorthand to deride others. On the West Coast, however, the term is often used colloquially in its abbreviated form: PWT (Poor White Trash).<br>A related stereotype is that of the redneck, though they differ considerably. A rural middle-class person may proudly characterize himself as a redneck (for example, the comedian Jeff Foxworthy uses his "redneck" persona as part of his schtick), but could be genuinely offended if called "white trash." "Trash" is more pejorative, and geographically different. So-called "rednecks" tend to be exclusively rural, whereas "white trash" are just as likely to live in semideveloped or suburban areas.</font color=blue><br><br>Now I have bolded a sentence on which I believe even some of the "wealthy" fit it very well - Sooo you don't have to be poor for me to consider anyone to be White Trash a person can be rich as well.<br><br>
Posted by: OSXaddict

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 04:14 PM

uh..I live in the south, and am not rich. (I'm not poor though). <br><br>
Posted by: carp

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 04:18 PM

But you have manners, moral standards, and display cultured behavior and you are educated. Hence you would not be considered as White Trash in my eyes.<br><br>
Posted by: OSXaddict

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 04:27 PM

not as white trash...I hear ya! <br><br><br><br>
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 04:32 PM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>And if you are born white trash, can you transcend it, or are you always so?<p><hr></blockquote><p>Yes, you're born white trash. And no, you can never transcend it (see Britney Spears, for example.)<br><br>Also, one of the caveats of being white trash is that you don't think you're white trash. It's the central tenet of the white trash lexicon. <br><br>
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 04:34 PM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Do a lot of people ride those in South Carolina?<p><hr></blockquote><p>Beats me. But they do ride them in Texas. <br><br>
Posted by: iRock

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 04:50 PM

<br><br>oh yeah, that's going in the blog
Posted by: carp

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 05:15 PM

LOL<br><br>
Posted by: lanovami

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 05:44 PM

"Why bother having long discussions ? ?"<br><br>Like I said in my post, "what are our personal definitions?" which I find more interesting. I am a huge wikipedia user, and had already looked up it's "definition". That article gets pretty un-Wikipediacal near the end BTW.<br><br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
Posted by: lanovami

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 05:54 PM

I wonder. I remember the "what is white trash" debate came up with some friends from University when we were standing in line for an aquarium. Standing in line was a family with a toddler who was walking around in nothing but diapers. Admittedly, it was quite warm, but my two friends turned up their noses at this. It didn't bother me at all, and I wouldn't have even noticed it if they hadn't brought it up. This started a long discussion that we have had intermittently over the years about what is "white trash". I came from a background that could certainly fit the definition, but had never really given it much thought at the time. My friends came from a "higher crust" or whatever you want to call it, but at the same time one of my friends at the aquarium had a brother who fit all the telltale signs such as live in girlfriend, wife beater shirts, pickups, and a baseball cap over long hair to hide his huge bald "spot". Anyways....<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
Posted by: OSXaddict

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 06:06 PM

What I don't get is...so what? How does their standards of living affect me or you?<br><br>Honestly, they don't affect me one bit. I could care less if someone is "white trash" or "upper class". If someone wants to ride an ATV, and it doesn't affect me or my family...who cares. I'm sure we all have some sort of thing that others can look down upon. That doesn't make them better than anyone else.<br><br>Of course that's just my own opinion.<br><br>
Posted by: lanovami

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 06:17 PM

I couldn't agree with you more. Yet, the categories that people put each other in still interest me from a sociological perspective.<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
Posted by: OSXaddict

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 06:25 PM

It's probably because they don't have the best self-esteem? Heck..I don't know.<br><br>
Posted by: sean

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 06:47 PM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> Yes, you're born white trash. And no, you can never transcend it (see Britney Spears, for example.)<br><p><hr></blockquote><p>okay, maybe this is common knowledge, but i don't tend to pay attention to new posters with names like "BankTeller," but i just realized that you're bryan. <br><br><a href="http://www.macminute.com/cgi-bin/wwwthreads/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=lounge&Number=276301&Search=true&Forum=lounge&Words=Britney Spears&Match=Entire Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=276301">more here</a><br><br>--<br>"I am mindful that diversity is one of the strengths of the country" --president bush on 9/27/05
Posted by: OSXaddict

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 06:50 PM

Hehe..I figured it was him awhile ago but this thread clinched it for me. Look at my 259pm post....<br><br>
Posted by: Celandine

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 07:40 PM

Oh good grief<br>and here I was being nice to him.<br><br>...I feel so dirty... <br><br>
Posted by: lanovami

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 07:56 PM

Trog clued me in a few hours ago, but he was a little more subtle about it.<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
Posted by: sean

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 08:10 PM

yeah, i just noticed that when visiting the politix forum moment ago. i guess everyone was putting 1 + 1 together about the same time. <br><br>--<br>"I am mindful that diversity is one of the strengths of the country" --president bush on 9/27/05
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 08:12 PM

<embed src="http://www.ilovewavs.com/Effects/War/Sonar.wav" width=320 height=25 controller=true autoplay=false type="video/quicktime"><br><br>. . . . . Here's lookin' at [color:red]you</font color=red> kid.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 09:27 PM

Hey! Who you calling white trash?<br><br>[color:red]We'll never forget you, Intimidator</font color=red>
Posted by: lanovami

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/06/06 09:31 PM

New sock puppets popping up at opportune moments? Nah, couldn't be Bryan could it?<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
Posted by: Celandine

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/07/06 03:01 AM

<br>I doano... I musta' missed that.<br><br>Since I tend to avoid Bryan's particular brand of meanness<br>that he often posted, deriding people in the news, just to keep<br>the dust swirling.<br>Just like I don't bother keeping track of his plethora of personas<br>...so The "KING" reference would have been lost on me anyway...<br><br>I can't help feeling genuinely violated on some level: Flim-flammed. <br><br>It brings home the very nature of Sock-Puppetry.<br>"How To Lose Friends & Influence Among People"<br><br>...and why most members prefer John to Bryan.<br><br><br><br>
Posted by: steveg

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/07/06 03:02 AM

Dood, you just figured this out? <br><br>
Posted by: OSXaddict

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/07/06 03:26 AM

Nahhh..not MacZilla...I mean King Carlos...I mean Bryan! He would NEVER hide behind a name. <br><br>
Posted by: Bryan

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/07/06 05:59 AM

And I'm sure "OSXaddict" is on your birth certificate. Zing!<br><br>
Posted by: OSXaddict

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/07/06 06:01 AM

OH yeah...got me there! <br><br><br><br>
Posted by: MattMac112

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/07/06 06:04 AM

DUDE! Where ya' been? <br><br>***********************<br>[color:red]Nice Try</font color=red>
Posted by: Celandine

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/07/06 08:33 AM

LOL guess that clenches it! lol<br><br>
Posted by: lanovami

Re: The White Trash Birthright - 08/07/06 02:34 PM

Ahhh, big group hug everybody......ready.....SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE! OK, that's a rap!<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle