Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far

Posted by: skim1420

Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/28/05 06:41 PM

Received my Tiger software today (yay) but the installer/upgrade has failed so far. I tried googling for help but too early, I guess.<br><br>When I start the Tiger installer, it asks me to restart, and it boots up with the Installer (hope that didn't confuse). The upgrade is straightforward, but for me it fails after it verifies the DVD, as it's "Verifying destination volume" (I'm upgrading my existing 10.3.9). It gets stuck there for about 5 minutes with the progress bar at about 2mm:<br><br><br><br>then goes straight to "There were errors installing the software ... Please try installing again" with a restart button:<br><br><br><br>Sorry about the rotated image - camera phone. Any suggestions?.. Thanks!<br><br>Steven<br><br>--<br>http://www.stevenkimband.com/
Posted by: Optimus_George

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/28/05 06:42 PM

Turn your phone sideways?<br><br>
Posted by: Pete

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/28/05 06:43 PM

Is the disc dirty at all?<br><br><br>[color:red]5.19.05 - The 'Jedi Slaughter' tour begins!</font color=red>
Posted by: skim1420

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/28/05 06:47 PM

Good question - no, it's clean. It seems to fail during checking the destination disk, but I'm no expert. First two attempts I let it run through checking the install DVD, but then I've been skipping that step the last few times.<br><br>--<br>http://www.stevenkimband.com/
Posted by: Bryan

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/28/05 07:08 PM

Some may disagree, but this is why I backup my drive and do an erase and install. <br><br>
Posted by: skim1420

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/28/05 07:25 PM

So I'd entertain the idea.. seems like a ton of work, though. The files & apps is easy, but what about all the user data for things like Mail, iCal, Address Book, browser bookmarks, keychains, etc.? If you tell me it's straightforward and not a hack, I'll seriously entertain the idea..<br><br>--<br>http://www.stevenkimband.com/
Posted by: Trog

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/28/05 07:33 PM

This is probably not the safest idea, but what happens if you just skip the step that its choking on?<br><br>
Posted by: margadagio

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/28/05 07:33 PM

It's times like this a .Mac account pays for itself. One click and all your data is backed up. One click and everything gets installed in the right place.<br><br>
Posted by: Bryan

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/28/05 07:36 PM

A hack? Not at all. <br><br>Burn your home folder to a couple DVDs and blow 'er out. Then, just put back what you need. <br><br>
Posted by: skim1420

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/28/05 11:46 PM

Don't you get like 100MB with a .Mac account? If so that wouldn't be enough for my just ~/Library folder, which I guess is the main one that takes any real brains to restore.<br><br>--<br>http://www.stevenkimband.com/
Posted by: drjohn

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/28/05 11:58 PM

250MB, Ibelieve.<br><br>
Posted by: garyW

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 12:07 AM

You might have some problems with your HD, did you run disk utilities on it? Disk warrior?<br><br>You didn't mention what mac you have. <br><br>For about $120 there's two good options, (think of it as an investment!): <br><br>an external FW/USB2 80 gb drive would do the trick, clone your existing drive to it, then zero the boot drive and install Tiger. <br><br>or even better if you have a PowerMac to install a 2nd internal drive, like a 37gb 10000rpm Raptor, to use as boot drive to install Tiger. Keep your files on your existing drive and use it for archive.
Posted by: skim1420

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 12:33 AM

I have other internal drives that have plenty of space. If I install Tiger on one of those, does my user home directory stay at the original location? Will all my apps still run from their original location or do I need to install them again?<br><br>--<br>http://www.stevenkimband.com/
Posted by: garyW

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 12:40 AM

Using the other internal drive: zero that drive, install Tiger on it and set is as the start up disk, your previous Panther drive should remain untouched as a backup. Tiger install will ask you to find a previous system to grab preferences, addresses... You'll need to re-install apps and fonts onto the new Tiger drive. <br><br><br>read this and this about cloning your existing drive to another as a bootable drive before installing fresh. The G5 Support forum on the link is a good one to know.
Posted by: garyW

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 01:10 AM

please note that zeroing the drive means wiping all data.... so backup or move anything on the drive or it's gone forever! <br><br>
Posted by: Bryan

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 01:30 AM

That's right...it is the computer colonic. <br><br>People pooh-pooh the idea...but it is the sure-fire way to solve your software problem 100% of the time. Back up that home directory and zero that sucker!<br><br>
Posted by: garyW

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 01:33 AM

... more like cleaning out the garage
Posted by: Bryan

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 01:35 AM

That's right. <br><br>I just don't have the desire to run all these doo-dad shareware and freeware apps to clean my cache, delete my logs, fix my files and other assorted Unix hackery. <br><br>Now granted...some people enjoy the fiddling, so to each their own. <br><br>
Posted by: garyW

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 01:40 AM

have you tried OnyX? free and quick way to clean house ( in 10.3 anyway)<br><br>
Posted by: Bryan

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 01:42 AM

I'm about to really clean house tonight when I pick up Tiger <br><br><img src=http://www.wap.org/journal/g5drive/erasedisk2.jpg><br><br>
Posted by: skim1420

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 01:58 AM

Further investigation, here's where I'm at - I started up in single-user mode and found overlapped extent allocation problems on the primary disk. I looked up the files in question (via the inode number) and found just about every file in my home directory problematic. What gives?<br><br>I guess the shortest path may be a fresh install..<br><br>--<br>http://www.stevenkimband.com/
Posted by: margadagio

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 03:37 AM

THE best path is back-up. Wipe and install. You will have a lovely fresh system.<br><br>good luck! <br><br>
Posted by: Bryan

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 04:07 AM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> THE best path is back-up. Wipe<p><hr></blockquote><p>What...no bidet? <br><br>
Posted by: margadagio

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 04:21 AM

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Posted by: MattMac112

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 05:09 AM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Don't you get like 100MB with a .Mac account? If so that wouldn't be enough for my just ~/Library folder, which I guess is the main one that takes any real brains to restore<p><hr></blockquote><p>The "Backup" application allows you to not only backup to your .mac account, but to other hard drives as well.<br><br>Backup your important information and then blowout your hard drive. It's simple, painless AND fun for the entire family.<br><br>****************<br>
Posted by: Bryan

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 05:13 AM

I use the free built-in backup application in all versions of Mac OS X...at no extra charge!<br><br>Step 1.) Insert blank CD or DVD<br><br>Step 2.) Drag home folder, or parts of it, onto media<br><br>Step 3.) Burn<br><br>Step 4.) Lather, Rinse, Repeat<br><br>Step 5.) There is no step five<br><br>
Posted by: Mississauga

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 05:18 AM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I started up in single-user mode and found overlapped extent allocation problems on the primary disk.<p><hr></blockquote><p>You're experiencing directory issues. Run a disk utility such as DiskWarrior and repair the volume with Disk Utility before proceeding if you're not zeroing all data.<br><br>
Posted by: Lori

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 08:40 AM

Marge, did you see the new .mac page. Very improved! I really like it. Has a lot more stuff at your fingertips. go take a look.<br><br><br>For Mike
Posted by: garyW

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 09:11 AM

.mac page update that was long overdue. nice!<br>
Posted by: skim1420

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 04:10 PM

Don't think I can change the subject of the original post, but I thought I'd let the good people know my upgrade is complete. Thank you, thank you.<br><br>A bit of work and my obsession kept sleep away but it makes you feel like the master of your system again in the end, since you have to rebuild the thing.<br><br>Cheers -<br><br>--<br>http://www.stevenkimband.com/
Posted by: margadagio

Re: Tiger upgrade unsuccessful so far - 04/29/05 06:07 PM

Yup, the new .Mac page is sweet. About time. <br><br>