OSX Zip disk to PC.

Posted by: Jim_

OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 01:17 PM

<br>Just thought I'd pass this on. I have a customer that needs to create files on a non Network Mac, (IT won't do it) then get the files to a PC laptop with no CD player, to email them out on the local corporate network. It seems that there is some problem with copying files to a PC format Zip disk with the Resource fork being split off the files and the files being corrupted, like the SMB problems.<br><br>It seems the same trick as overcoming the SMB problem works with Zip disks. If you put the file/s into a folder and copy the folder all is well.<br><br>
Posted by: DaddyMac

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 01:27 PM

What about stuffing the files? I imagine that could work as well...<br><br><br>[color:red]DaddyMac's MP3 to AAC conversion: left to go...</font color=red>
Posted by: djstefan

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 01:34 PM

Yeh, I would stuff the file with a small filename. Make sure u dont use a filename too long. Stuffing usually worked for me on cross-platform.<br><br>___________________________________________<br><br>I'm just another Mac user at an 8 hour day Dilbert style cubicle job....
Posted by: Trog

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 01:47 PM

Yeah, stuffit deluxe will even .zip your files. PeeCs LOOOOVE .zip <br><br>
Posted by: JonnyCat

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 01:53 PM

tell your friend to plug the Mac on the network himself (OS X with figure it out on its own how to set up), the IT morons wouldn't even notice.<br><br>[color:blue]Quitters never win, winners<br> never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.</font color=blue>
Posted by: rman

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 02:59 PM

That will only work if the Apple is running DHCP and the network he is plugging into has a DHCP server defined.<br><br>
Posted by: JonnyCat

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 03:28 PM

"network he is plugging into has a DHCP server defined"<br><br>aren't like 99.99999999999999999% of the networks out there running DHCP (the IT morons that won't plug in the Mac are probably the 0.0000000000000001%) <br><br>[color:blue]Quitters never win, winners<br> never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.</font color=blue>
Posted by: djstefan

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 03:32 PM

For the network, just write down the settings from the PC on a paper, plug them into the MAC and change the last digit of your IP. If hear someone cursing in a cubbicle, change the IP again till it's all nice and quiet! Than just wait to get a complimetary long lasting pain free vacation.<br><br>PS: By pain I ment "pay"<br><br>___________________________________________<br><br>I'm just another Mac user at an 8 hour day Dilbert style cubicle job....
Posted by: JonnyCat

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 03:35 PM

or you could write down the settings of the PC, plug them into the Mac exactly the same. Unplug the PC and turn it off, cause you won't be needing it anymore, now that the Mac is on the network! <br><br>[color:blue]Quitters never win, winners<br> never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.</font color=blue>
Posted by: djstefan

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 03:48 PM

That's totally true. When I moved to this company, I had an old 300mhz mac and a 333mhz PC in my cubbicle. I made them get the new mac, and now I am just running the MAC, and Win2000 under virtual PC for some of the PC stuff. Also, I am the only mac user in the whole company and at first they said that they couldnt plug it into the network. So I did it myself and I also requested 3 extra IPs with the explanation that I "needed them". Now I can plug in my laptop from home and my PC laptop from home too. With OSX you can also see all the printers and drives in the network too without having to install anything else on the server.<br><br>___________________________________________<br><br>I'm just another Mac user at an 8 hour day Dilbert style cubicle job....
Posted by: Trog

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 04:10 PM

I don't know how it works in the real world but that wouldn't work at most universities. Unless your ethernet card address is registered and active in the IT database the DHCP server won't recognize your machine no matter what you do. <br><br>I guess it prevents non university people from leeching off the schools big pipes but it sure is a pain when you get a new machine. All the IT dudes need to do is paste my ethernet address into a text box and hit enter and its all done. Average time it takes to get it done.... 2-3 weeks. <br><br>
Posted by: rman

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 04:12 PM

I guess the company I support is in that 1%. They want complete control of their network. So you can not place any device on the network with out telling them what it is. They do surprise audits to ensure they know what is on their network. They are truely a pc house.<br><br>
Posted by: JonnyCat

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 05:00 PM

Southern New Hamshire University - connect a Mac and you're on the net. No registering MAC addresses.<br><br><br><br>[color:blue]Quitters never win, winners<br> never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.</font color=blue>
Posted by: JonnyCat

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 05:07 PM

and btw, you can change the ethernet MAC address on most computerrs to whatever you want, so it's not that great of a security feature.<br><br>Anybody that wants to tap into their 'false sense of' security just has to sniff a couple packets, find a valid MAC address and change their computer to it. Or just use a linksys router that can spoof MAC addresses as well.<br><br><br><br>[color:blue]Quitters never win, winners<br> never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.</font color=blue>
Posted by: Trog

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 05:18 PM

Really??? Do tell! How do I do it? <br><br>
Posted by: JonnyCat

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 05:33 PM

heh, heh, after I wrote that I thought I'd try it out with my iBook.<br><br>ifconfig en0 ether 11:22:33:44:55:66<br><br>should be the command, but it looks like I spoke to soon, the Mac doesn't seem to change the MAC address with that command. looks like it's hardware dependant (only if the Network card supports it)<br><br>of course, I went a played some more, and now I gots to to reboot the iBook cause it lost the ether connection completely <br><br>[color:blue]Quitters never win, winners<br> never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.</font color=blue>
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 07:22 PM

Get a cheap router and spoof the address, Trog.<br><br>By the way, my school doesn't keep tab of the MAC addresses either, so I regularly take my laptops in and plug 'em right into the network with no problems.<br><br> Alas, poor Yorick. -- Hamlet
Posted by: Trog

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 07:48 PM

I'll be incredibly impressed if you can do that. I'm under the impression that it is sort of like your machine's serial number, part of the hardware.<br><br>It seems like you sometimes hear about hackers, virus makers and kiddie porn aficionados getting caught because they've finally tracked something down to a particular machine via the number on its ethernet card. You can jump IPs and ISPs easily, but there is only one number per ethernet card. At least I think... next time I drop by JC will have changed his. <br><br>Yeah, I guess I could get a router and bypass the IT folks when a new machine comes in, but its the universities' machines not mine. I should probably just do it their (slow) way. <br><br>
Posted by: JonnyCat

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 08:00 PM

looks like it's dependant on the device driver. My linksys wireless card on my laptop can change the MAC address. Usually the MAC address is burned in at manufacture to ensure every ethernet device is unique. This is a convenience for ethernet low level protocols, not a security thing. The driver reads the number and outputs it, but if your driver supports it, you can change it to whatever you want.<br><br>Actually there really is no use I can think of, except for spoofing 'gimicky' security measures like your university or cable modem ISPs that want to limit the number of machines connecting to their modem.<br><br>The MAC address is a low level address used only on ethernet, so once it goes to frame relay, etc. (the stuff the connects up the internet) the MAC address is lost. So there is no way to get somebody's MAC address across the internet.<br><br>And getting a little router in your office all you have to do is register the router's MAC addy and you can connect any computer you want. So your university is just creating a make work project for themselves.<br><br><br>[color:blue]Quitters never win, winners<br> never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.</font color=blue>
Posted by: Jim_

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 09:15 PM

Networking the two would at least solve the file transfer problem. I'd set up windows sharing on the Mac. It's some kind of proprietary in house mail so the PC is needed to transfer the file. I plugged into the Network and saw all sorts of machines available, so a hub would work, she has only one outlet in the wall at her cubicle.<br><br>I don't know why I didn't think of that. Thanks.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Reboot on 07/10/03 00:20 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
Posted by: Jim_

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 09:17 PM

She wants no extra steps if possible, I suggested zipping them. What ya' gonna do.<br><br>Thanks<br><br>
Posted by: Trog

Re: OSX Zip disk to PC. - 07/09/03 09:32 PM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>So your university is just creating a make work project for themselves.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Oh , how very unusual! <br><br><br>