Hybrid hard drives

Posted by: Papa

Hybrid hard drives - 08/03/13 11:31 AM

The hard drive on my 2009 15" MacBook pro is getting close to being filled. I am right at the 80% full mark. Does anyone have any thoughts on the hybrid drives? I don't think I want to go the SSD route due to the cost.
Posted by: John Rougeux

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/03/13 12:00 PM

I think they get pretty good reviews

Check out this 1TB one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178340
Posted by: MacBozo

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/03/13 03:38 PM

I have a 500GB Seagate hybrid in my MacMini. No problems. It does seem faster at some tasks than the original HD, but that may also be due to the 7200RPM spin speed as well.
Posted by: Jim_

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/03/13 04:52 PM

What size drive do you have now, and what size do you think you need?

Like Michael said, Hybrids are quicker at some tasks than a standard drive, it boots and wakes from sleep a lot quicker, but if you want to really supercharge it go full SSD.

That drive John posted is a great price for even a standard 1TB drive, but it's only a 5400 RPM drive. IMO you'd be better off getting a 7200 RPM standard drive. Yours probably has a 5400 RPM.

The hybrids load the OS and swap onto the SSD part, and I figure that the Seagate software loads frequently used apps onto it, but the majority of the work is being done by the spinning platters. The SSD is only 8G.

So it will boot faster, and launch apps faster, but at 5400 RPM you really won't see much difference unless you reboot the computer all day and launch and quit apps all day.

You probably have the standard 5400 RPM drive now, so IMO I'd recommend a standard 7200 RPM drive, it will be faster in general with that. Get a Seagate.

Or go full $$D and be amazed. I think yoyo put an SSD in his tower, maybe he'll chime in.
Posted by: Papa

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/03/13 06:37 PM

The drive i have now is a 250 gb 5400 rpm. I was looking at the hybrid that John posted the link too. I don't really feel like spending the extra money for the larger SSD. I don't do a lot of intensive stuff on this laptop so I will probably just go with the faster standard drive. I have been receiving hints from my son that he would be willing to take this laptop if i wanted to upgrade. grin

Thanks for all the input.
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/03/13 07:10 PM

Take the hint!
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/03/13 08:08 PM

Price aside, Papa, the SSDs are the cat's PJs. It's almost instant on when you reboot. Apps take no time flat to start up. I put one into my tower and love it. The MBP that my school got me has one as well, and I've noticed that periodically the system will purge RAM all on its own. I got a 256 GB drive for the tower, and it didn't cost all that much. I guess you need something larger, though, so cost may be a real consideration.
Posted by: Papa

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/03/13 08:19 PM

Are you going to chip in some of the upgrade cost? laugh

I am curious about the new laptop chips from Intel. I think I will wait and see what the laptops look like.
Posted by: Papa

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/03/13 08:23 PM

I really like the SSD drives but the cost for anything above what I have is pretty steep. I will continue to look around and see what I can find. Prices are coming down all the time.
Posted by: Jim_

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/03/13 09:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Papa
I am curious about the new laptop chips from Intel. I think I will wait and see what the laptops look like.
If you're looking for a bigger iMember, an SSD would give much more of a performance gain than a new chip IMO.

Although your machine is 4 years old and Apple tends to put them out to pasture regarding OS upgrades from 5 - 6 years old.

See what the new ones bring for sure if you can wait.

I get to live vicariously through the new equipment I install for my customers, and the current SSD laptops I can't even come up with words for regarding how fast they are. I have had the chance to experience pretty much all processor/machine upgrades over the last 20 years, and I have never seen such a quantum jump in performance as when SSDs were put into these machines. IMO it is going to take a few years and one hell of a chip upgrade/standard HD combo to equal the speed of any current or recent past machines with an SSD.

If you can afford it, you only go around once. smile
Posted by: musicalmarv7

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/04/13 04:26 AM

I agree with you SSD is much faster than regular HD but if your connection is slow what does it really matter than.
Posted by: John Rougeux

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/04/13 05:47 PM

Connection (assuming you are talking about Internet connection) has nothing to do with the speed of the SSD/IDE drives.

SSD drives will boot fast even with no Internet connection.

Now if you are talking about connection to the Mac (USB/FireWire/Lightning) then yes, a SSD external drive (is there one?) connected via USB2 will be slower than a lightning connected one I believe.
Posted by: musicalmarv7

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/05/13 03:42 AM

I am referring to my internet connection which is 3.5Mbps.
Posted by: John Rougeux

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/05/13 04:23 AM

ok. I don't see the connection between your internet connection and Papa's questions about SSD/Hybrid drives....

Other than the remote comparison of saying that even if it boots up fast, if you have a slow connection speed, your browser & anything internet related will be slow.

That may be true, but Papa was asking because his hard drive is about full. The discussion turned to the speed of SSD vs IDE drives. I don't think anybody was discussing internet speeds related to speed of the browser or other internet apps.
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/05/13 02:04 PM

Originally Posted By: musicalmarv7
I am referring to my internet connection which is 3.5Mbps.


This is like comparing the size of your engine to how slow a highway is at rush hour.
Posted by: MacBozo

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/05/13 03:21 PM

Crucial is having a sale on their SSDs.
Posted by: Papa

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/05/13 05:33 PM

Thanks. I will check it out.
Posted by: musicalmarv7

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/06/13 03:46 AM

Let papa than buy himself an SSD which I do not need now. To each his own in life.
Posted by: John Rougeux

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/06/13 05:35 AM

Originally Posted By: musicalmarv7
Let papa than buy himself an SSD which I do not need now. To each his own in life.


Oh! I had no idea your offer of buying him one was on the table.

I'm sorry Papa, that was my fault!
Posted by: Papa

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/06/13 04:15 PM

That's okay. His check bounced anyway.

Thinking about keeping this laptop the way it is and giving it to my son when the new ones come out. The drive in it will be more than enough for him. I may even take a discount on the current model MacPro when the new ones come out. I don't have to have all the bells and whistles but like jim said, the upgrade cycle will catch up to me pretty quick. My son is still using a white Macbook that is several operating systems behind.
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/06/13 05:35 PM

If you want to buy used.. I may be selling my tower. It's not last years mild refresh.. but the model previous. It has been flawless in it;s performance... and I would sell it at whatever the going rate is.
I usually determine that by Ebay and look at the previous sales ot the last month or two.

If you are in the market for a new one...hey.. I can't blame ya!

Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro4,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 8 MB
Memory: 6 GB
Processor Interconnect Speed: 4.8 GT/s
Boot ROM Version: MP41.0081.B07
SMC Version (system): 1.39f5
SMC Version (processor tray): 1.39f5

Blu ray and regular cd/dvd


ATI Radeon HD 4870:

Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 4870
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
Slot: Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x9440
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-B7710F-176
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.318

Memory Slots:

ECC: Enabled

DIMM 1:

Size: 2 GB
Type: DDR3 ECC
Speed: 1066 MHz
Status: OK
Manufacturer: 0x838A
Part Number: 0x5052494E4345544F4E000000000000000000
Serial Number: 0x00000000

DIMM 2:

Size: 2 GB
Type: DDR3 ECC
Speed: 1066 MHz
Status: OK
Manufacturer: 0x838A
Part Number: 0x5052494E4345544F4E000000000000000000
Serial Number: 0x00000000

DIMM 3:

Size: 2 GB
Type: DDR3 ECC
Speed: 1066 MHz
Status: OK
Manufacturer: 0x838A
Part Number: 0x5052494E4345544F4E000000000000000000
Serial Number: 0x00000000

DIMM 4:

Size: Empty
Type: Empty
Speed: Empty
Status: Empty
Manufacturer: Empty
Part Number: Empty
Serial Number: Empty


This model was better running ram in triplicate numbers.... hence the 6 GBs.
Posted by: Papa

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/06/13 06:04 PM

That would be a good deal but I will pass on the tower and go with another laptop.
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/06/13 06:20 PM

That's cool. I'll get a buyer... cool
Posted by: John Rougeux

Re: Hybrid hard drives - 08/27/13 07:45 PM

So did you get a new laptop?