MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems!

Posted by: Mike

MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 04/27/13 04:05 PM

My MacMini DVD/CD player won't 'accept' any DVDs/CDs. I can Insert the DVD a bit but then something is blocking it. There's no other DVD/CD in the drive and Nothing else stuck in it. It just won't go any further.
I've never had problems with it before but now I can only insert it a bit but it won't 'grab' the DVD/CD.
I'm beginning to thing this thing is on the 'Fritz'......(Crappy components, Apple!!) mad
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 04/29/13 08:03 AM

How old is it?
Posted by: Acumowchek

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 04/29/13 09:20 AM

And how often do you use it?
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 04/29/13 11:41 AM

You can try one of these or Apple has their external for around $80. I've put a few of these on some customer's machines and they seem okay so far. There's also a newer 218 model at Amazon.
Posted by: steveg

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 04/30/13 03:04 AM

Dayam, dood! Next time warn us if it's an Amazon Link. Now, even if I remove it from my browsing history, I'm gonna get spam-bombed for a month with emails for optical drives. mad
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 04/30/13 05:17 AM

Originally Posted By: steveg
Dayam, dood! Next time warn us if it's an Amazon Link. Now, even if I remove it from my browsing history, I'm gonna get spam-bombed for a month with emails for optical drives. mad
????

How are they going to get your email address just from visiting the website? Take off the tinfoil hat. LOL.
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 04/30/13 08:21 AM

LOL... youse guys....
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 04/30/13 10:21 AM

He's been living in Dayton too long, becoming a local. grin
Posted by: steveg

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 03:44 AM

Yo, dontchoo know nuttin'? smirk

Any Amazon link I click opens within my account, so natcherlee, this AM's Amazon email included optical drives among the recommended items.

I could unsub from the mailing list or kill the cookies, but at least once a week there's something worth looking into.
Posted by: steveg

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 03:45 AM

Hush up now. mad
Posted by: musicalmarv7

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 04:02 AM

I would bring it into a Apple Provider to see what is wrong.
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 04:47 AM

I don't get anything form Amazon when I look at a link of theirs... unless I am signed in. Are you signed in 24/7? Just curious.
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 07:02 AM

Originally Posted By: steveg
Hush up now. mad
cry
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 07:40 AM

I guess the OP wasn't as upset over the malfunctioning dvd player as I thought... he hasn't even checked back to see what help we may give him.

Of course, in my experience the optical drives on computers are always one of the first components to fail.
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 07:52 AM

Originally Posted By: NucleusG4
I guess the OP wasn't as upset over the malfunctioning dvd player as I thought... he hasn't even checked back to see what help we may give him.

Of course, in my experience the optical drives on computers are always one of the first components to fail.
Yeah, unless you go with the tower they're POS laptop drives.
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 08:26 AM

? The towers have laptop drives? Since when?
Mine didn't... but it's 4-5 years old.
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 09:50 AM

Originally Posted By: NucleusG4
? The towers have laptop drives? Since when?
Mine didn't... but it's 4-5 years old.
Read my post again. Wear your glasses this time.

They use laptop drives in everything except the towers is another way to put it. smile
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 11:29 AM

Then you should have added another comma smarty pants.


Yeah, unless you go with the tower they're POS laptop drives.

is different than

Yeah, unless you go with the tower, they're POS laptop drives.


Whaaaa----Bam!!!!!
Posted by: six_of_one

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 12:15 PM

Originally Posted By: NucleusG4
Then you should have added another comma smarty pants.

Yeah, unless you go with the tower they're POS laptop drives.

is different than

Yeah, unless you go with the tower, they're POS laptop drives.



Hmmm ...

Yeah, unless you go with the tower (they're POS laptop drives)

or

Yeah, unless you go with the tower -- they're POS laptop drives.

Is how you're interpreting things. But I'm thinking no punctuation at all was correct usage for what Jim meant to convey ...

But to be honest, they both read pretty much the same ... the comma you added seems more a phrasing pause than an actual change of meaning ...

Of course, "Yeah, they're POS laptop drives unless you go with the tower" might have been less ambiguous to begin with =)
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 12:26 PM

Citizens arrest, citizens arrest!!! laugh

Actually, with the extra comma I read it as the towers have POS laptop drives.

I am so confused. grin
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 12:31 PM

I love this place. cool

Wish I had the resources to get all of us active members together for a bash.
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: six_of_one
Originally Posted By: NucleusG4
Then you should have added another comma smarty pants.

Yeah, unless you go with the tower they're POS laptop drives.

is different than

Yeah, unless you go with the tower, they're POS laptop drives.



Hmmm.. he didn't have his in quotes..
And without a comma, "they're" references the word preceding it.

Hmmm ...

Yeah, unless you go with the tower (they're POS laptop drives)

or

Yeah, unless you go with the tower -- they're POS laptop drives.

Is how you're interpreting things. But I'm thinking no punctuation at all was correct usage for what Jim meant to convey ...

But to be honest, they both read pretty much the same ... the comma you added seems more a phrasing pause than an actual change of meaning ...

Of course, "Yeah, they're POS laptop drives unless you go with the tower" might have been less ambiguous to begin with =)
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 12:54 PM

These hands are deadly weapons! Woosh woosh...chop..chop.
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 01:10 PM

Ooops.. I quoted the whole post somehow.
Posted by: six_of_one

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 03:53 PM

Quote:
Hmmm.. he didn't have his in quotes..
And without a comma, "they're" references the word preceding it.


Disclaimer: I am not taking this seriously at all -- just a fun exercise ;-)

Context is everything:

[In discussing the optical drives in Apple computers] Unless you go with the tower they're POS laptop drives.

In this case, "they're" must refer to something other than "tower" because a) disagreement in number, and b) a tower is obviously not a drive. Given the context, the reference is obviously to the hard drives ...


Similarly:

I love these sandals. Unless you have big feet they're quite comfortable footwear.

and

I love these sandals. Unless you have big feet, they're quite comfortable footwear.

To me say exactly the same thing. The second may be more correct grammatically (and less clunky to read), but adding the comma doesn't really appear to change the actual meaning in this case =)
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 06:03 PM

To avoid all confusion, you ought to provide the proper ( smile ) subordinating conjunction to the understood main clause. The "Yeah" really means "Yes, optical drives on computers are always one of the first components to fail." The clause that follows is composed of two subordinate clauses, but the first subordinating conjunction is left out (it's understood). The second subordinating conjunction is "unless." So to avoid confusion the sentence ought to read as follows:

"Yeah, because, unless you go with the tower, they're POS laptop drives."

And to be fully expressive (I love this stuff!), it would look like this:

"Yes, optical drives on computers are always one of the first components to fail because, unless you go with the tower, they're POS laptop drives."

Ya had to start this stuff up!
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 06:26 PM

Originally Posted By: yoyo52
To avoid all confusion, you ought to provide the proper ( smile ) subordinating conjunction to the understood main clause.
I love when you talk dirty Grammar. blush
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 07:56 PM

I love subordinating others. smile
Posted by: six_of_one

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/01/13 10:55 PM

Originally Posted By: yoyo52
To avoid all confusion, you ought to provide the proper ( smile ) subordinating conjunction to the understood main clause. The "Yeah" really means "Yes, optical drives on computers are always one of the first components to fail." The clause that follows is composed of two subordinate clauses, but the first subordinating conjunction is left out (it's understood). The second subordinating conjunction is "unless." So to avoid confusion the sentence ought to read as follows:

"Yeah, because, unless you go with the tower, they're POS laptop drives."

And to be fully expressive (I love this stuff!), it would look like this:

"Yes, optical drives on computers are always one of the first components to fail because, unless you go with the tower, they're POS laptop drives."

Ya had to start this stuff up!


That notwithstanding, the original objection was that Jim failed to include a comma at one point in the statement that was actually made (as opposed to the optimal verbiage you propose). I still maintain the addition of that comma would have made no difference in terms of comprehension ...

In regards:

"Yeah, because, unless you go with the tower, they're POS laptop drives."

I'd maintain that "because" and the comma afterwards is superfluous -- the main point being "Unless you go with the tower(,) they're POS laptop drives," which says the same thing while being more economical. Which brings us back to the original sentence.

And I agree your ultimate solution is more expressive. But in the practical sense of a conversation, restating what has already been said isn't necessarily beneficial* ...



*Unless you're having a KM-like conversation, in which case you'd need to recapitulate entire pages ;-)
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/02/13 08:56 AM

You're right. My point is that the confusion derives from the suppression of the subordinating conjunction, "because." That kind of stuff happens all the time in both spoken and written English, and sometimes leads to the ambiguity that started the discussion of grammar. In some cases a comma could reduce the ambiguity, and in this case, I agree with the point. But that's not true in every case where subordinating conjunctions are suppressed.

Anyway, I'm not advocating for the "fully expressive" form (and by fully expressive I mean that in that sentence every grammatical clause is clearly expressed)--I used that to underscore the grammar and, as a consequence, the original punctuational point that underlie the ambiguity.
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/03/13 12:46 PM

I love it. The Clash of the Grammar Titans. laugh
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/03/13 01:09 PM

Titan this....





laugh
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/03/13 01:49 PM

That's what she said.

[Couldn't resist.]
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/03/13 06:39 PM

Originally Posted By: NucleusG4
Titan this....
Hey, you started it. smirk
Posted by: steveg

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/04/13 03:09 AM

Yeah, my want my password? :p
Posted by: Mike

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/04/13 03:52 AM

The darn thing is just a bit over two years old.
Posted by: Mike

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/04/13 03:54 AM

I've used it only occasionally. Maybe a dozen times....
Posted by: Mike

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/04/13 03:56 AM

The external player from Apple is way too expensive. The Samsung ones appear to be pretty good....
Posted by: Mike

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/04/13 03:59 AM

Originally Posted By: musicalmarv7
I would bring it into a Apple Provider to see what is wrong.


Nawwww! They want money just to look at it. A good eternal player/burner can be had for under $40 these days.
Posted by: Mike

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/04/13 05:14 AM

"Anyway, I'm not advocating for the "fully expressive" form (and by fully expressive I mean that in that sentence every grammatical clause is clearly expressed)--I used that to underscore the grammar and, as a consequence, the original punctuational point that underlie the ambiguity." ---- Huh? ;-)
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/04/13 07:52 AM

Ya wants grammar ya gets grammar.
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/04/13 11:49 AM

So I'm guessing you opted out of the extended warranty.
Posted by: MacBozo

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/28/13 02:58 PM

What would we bash?
Posted by: MacBozo

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/28/13 03:03 PM

Have you tried some strategically placed compressed "air?" I use mine so infrequently, that blowing it out before I use it seems to be a pretty good fix.
Posted by: Jim_

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/28/13 09:30 PM

Originally Posted By: MacBozo
What would we bash?
Floridians. grin
Posted by: MacBozo

Re: MacMini DVD/CD Player Problems! - 05/29/13 04:41 PM

I have a whole bunch of new found relatives who would have my back. Can you hear the banjos? wink