Good 22" or 24" monitor?

Posted by: SgtBaxter

Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 02:30 PM

Any suggestions for a 22" or 24" monitor?<br><br>Price isn't a huge issue, I want something better than a cheapo TN panel, but by the same token I believe cinema displays are grossly overpriced.<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!®
Posted by: Topper

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 03:27 PM

As much as I hate the company, Dell makes excellent monitors.<br>For example, Dell's 30" monitor is generally considered better than Apple's 30" ACD.<br>In the 24" price range, Dell also gets good reviews.<br>Monitors that are good for gaming may not be as good for multimedia work and vice versa.<br>Here is a web site that compares monitors<br>NewEgg shows customer reviews of their monitors.<br><br><br>
Posted by: FSM

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 04:25 PM

i have an Apple big screen (22" I think from 2001) and a Dell (20" i think) . . . my next replacement display will be from Dell. they're beautiful and the price can't be beat for the quality.<br><br>
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 05:22 PM

Just bought the wife a Dell 20" SP2008WFP that's pretty impressive. USB ports on the side and webcam also. The only drawback is that while it adjusts up/down there is no pivot so your stuck with the angle, which is decent enough though. http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/produ...&lid=585550<br>The price has dropped considerably since Christmas... I think I paid about $250.00<br><br>
Posted by: Topper

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 06:07 PM

That's what I am hearing from a lot of people. <br>If I were to buy right now, it would definitely be a large Dell LCD. <br>One stat I've got to look closely at is response time since I do some gaming. <br>When the time comes, I look at the reviews and then decide.<br> <br><br>
Posted by: MacGizmo

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 06:09 PM

I love the Apple displays, but they're just too overpriced. My next LCD will most likely be a 24" Dell. I've just read too many good thing about them (the UltraSharp models ONLY) and the price is nearly unbeatable when you compare specs with other makers.<br><br>The Graphic Mac for your Mac and graphics news, tips and more.
Posted by: Nagromme

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 06:11 PM

I've researched a lot (didn't buy because I ended up with an iMac) and I too vote for Dell. They don't even look half bad. Specs are good, price is great, and reviews of quality are (for most models) very positive. I always recommend Dell displays.<br><br>nagr[color:red]o</font color=red>mme<br><br>I require stroyent!<br>TeamMacOSX.com | MacClan.net
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 06:19 PM

Dell. I absolutely love my Dell widescreen LCD. Also, I've heard that Dell uses many of the same components as the more expensive Apple monitors. I believe it. This monitor is beautiful and the price was right. <br><br>Screenshot<br><br><br><br><br><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by dreed2 on 01/16/08 09:22 PM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
Posted by: MacBozo

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 07:12 PM

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the Dell monitors are made by Samsung.<br><br>I do like my Viewsonics, though.<br><br><br>
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 07:15 PM

If they are made by Samsung, then I have a Dell by another name. And it's a great monitor.<br><br>&#63743; &#63743; &#63743; &#63743;
Posted by: Pete

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 07:20 PM

Yup, Dell Ultrasharp 24" here too - cost me about $700 at the time, so it might even be a lot less by now.<br><br>Topper - I played nothing but FPS games and I never saw an issue with timing or 'ghosting' - I can't speak for flight simulators however...<br><br>[color:purple]Work With ____! </font color=purple>
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 08:13 PM

The original UltraSharps used the same screen as the Apple Displays... not sure if that's still true... but I imagine it is.<br><br>The monitor I got my wife has a 2 ms response time.<br><br>
Posted by: Nagromme

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 09:19 PM

If anything, Dell updates their displays' internals MORE often than Apple. Yearly--which Apple has not always done.<br><br>nagr[color:red]o</font color=red>mme<br><br>I require stroyent!<br>TeamMacOSX.com | MacClan.net
Posted by: Topper

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/16/08 09:46 PM

Flt Sims would probably be the same.<br>I have heard that response time may not be as big an issue as it once was.<br>That is good to know, thank you.<br><br><br><br>
Posted by: MacGizmo

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 04:45 AM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>If anything, Dell updates their displays' internals MORE often than Apple. Yearly--which Apple has not always done.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Not to mention Apple discontinued the external iSight camera about a year ago (I believe) and STILL haven't put them into the Cinema Displays. I'm not sure why they left the pro users with MacPros out of the iChat/Webcam loop.<br><br>The Graphic Mac for your Mac and graphics news, tips and more.
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 05:00 AM

Hey, you're not kidding. I'm pissed. I've bought 2 diff. brands if webcam since Christmas and returned both. Neither supported by macam unfortunately.<br><br>
Posted by: SgtBaxter

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 05:40 AM

Yeah, Dell monitors are generally good, problem is their ultrasharp line used to be IPS panels, and now they've went to TN panels, which I don't want but might just have to settle on.<br><br>The 2007WFP even though it's a 20" would have been great, but you can't buy it anymore. Well you can, but the price is outrageous now ($500+)<br><br>I like the UltraSharp 2407WFP-HC, but didn't really want to spend $700.<br><br>Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. It's so damn hard to shop for an LCD nowadays, you can't ever find good honest specs.<br><br>Anyway if I do end up with a TN screen some of the Asus monitors look good. Heh, this is turning into an Asus/Coolermaster PC as every part except the CPU so far is ASUS or CoolerMaster!<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!®
Posted by: Biggerfoot

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 05:44 AM

I was pricing some 30" monitors and found this review that rates the Apple display over the Dell. It is a bit dated though.<br><br>_______<br>
Posted by: Topper

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 05:51 AM

[color:blue]"It's so damn hard to shop for an LCD nowadays, you can't ever find good honest specs"</font color=blue><br><br>Each manufacturer has a different way of measuring their specs. <br>It makes it very difficult.<br><br>Asus video card also?<br><br><br>
Posted by: Topper

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 06:00 AM

One big problem with Apple is they don't update their displays very often.<br>Rumors had it that there would be new ACDs at MWSF. But no.<br>Dell has a new 30" display (3008WFP) that is quite a bit better than the one in the review.<br><br>
Posted by: SgtBaxter

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 08:54 AM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Asus video card also?<p><hr></blockquote><p>Might get this one:<br><br>link<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!®
Posted by: Pete

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 09:03 AM

Here's another somewhat dated review concerning Apple vs. Dell<br><br><br><br>[color:purple]Work With ____! </font color=purple>
Posted by: Topper

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 10:47 AM

Very nice.<br>Did you notice that it appears to be overclocked?<br>Core clock is supposed to be 650MHz but it is 740MHz.<br>Memory clock is supposed to be 1940MHz but it is 2070MHz.<br>That thing should really move out.<br><br><br><br>
Posted by: SgtBaxter

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 11:36 AM

Yes, it's $30 more than the standard version.<br><br>Then again, there are a lot of people saying they've overclocked the standard version to those speeds, so perhaps I'll just save the money.<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!®
Posted by: Topper

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 03:43 PM

I'm glad I don't live near you, otherwise I'd be eating your dust <br><br>I'm thinking about trying to overclock the Apple 8800GT. I don't know if that is possible.<br><br><br>
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/17/08 07:47 PM

Here's another somewhat dated review concerning Apple vs. Dell<br><br><br><br>And here's another<br><br>
Posted by: SgtBaxter

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/18/08 06:45 AM

The thing I don't like about the 30" Apple monitor is I've seen numerous ones in stores where they had a bad failure with bright green pixels flashing on and off through the display.<br><br>I know store displays get poked and prodded, but that'd worry me as I've never seen it happen on any other display.<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!®
Posted by: NucleusG4

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/18/08 07:05 AM

Good to know.<br><br>I wasn't suggesting a 30"... just a review of Dell LCDs.. in general.<br><br>Good luck.<br><br>
Posted by: Topper

ASUS - 01/18/08 07:15 AM

That baby beats the GTX in a lot of games, especially in lower resolutions.<br>Do you need anything special to cool that beast?<br><br><br><br>
Posted by: SgtBaxter

Re: ASUS - 01/18/08 12:25 PM

Can't tell what's what on that chart!<br><br>But yeah it should be plenty fast. Heck guys were crying they were getting 20-30fps in Crysis, and I see everything above 60 there.<br><br>No special cooling, it's got a pretty hefty sink/fan on it already.<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!®
Posted by: G4Dualie

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/18/08 04:38 PM

Your link is no good... would you mind fixing it?<br><br><br>M i c h a e l (OFI)
Posted by: Biggerfoot

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/19/08 05:09 PM

I went the the local CompUSA closing sale today and they had two 30 inch displays (new in box) for $1440 and one 23 inch for $670. <br><br>They still had quite a few other monitors left.<br><br>_______<br>
Posted by: Topper

Re: ASUS - 01/21/08 06:49 AM

I totally redid the chart myself from scratch.<br>Probably not worth the time and effort but...<br>I thought it was interesting how your OC Asus video card actually beats the GTX.<br>I was quite pleased with the results of my "standard" 8800 GT card. It hangs in there fairly well with the leaders.<br><br><br><br>
Posted by: Topper

Asus Blitz Extreme... - 01/21/08 11:01 AM

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_blitz_extreme/<br><br>
Posted by: Topper

Mobo shootout... - 01/22/08 05:44 AM

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1277/1/page_1_introduction/index.html<br><br>
Posted by: Topper

Yet another graph... - 01/23/08 08:08 AM

Note how well the 3870 X2 does here...<br><br><br><br>
Posted by: Topper

Asus EAH3870 X2 - 01/23/08 08:15 AM

Notice that it has four DVI outputs.<br>And Company of Heros is free. But I would imagine you already have same.<br><br><br><br><br>
Posted by: Biggerfoot

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/23/08 12:52 PM

Here is a newer review of a 30 inch Dell. The gentleman is not too happy with it.<br><br>_______<br>
Posted by: SgtBaxter

Re: Asus EAH3870 X2 - 01/24/08 06:16 AM

Way too rich for my blood ;)<br><br>Looks like at the resolution I'd be playing (1680x1050) there's not much difference between that and the GTS anyway.<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!®
Posted by: Topper

Re: Asus EAH3870 X2 - 01/24/08 06:21 AM

I pretty much knew that.<br>I threw it out there for looks more than anything.<br>My life is sad when I start thinking that video cards look good.<br><br>http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5320&Itemid=34<br><br><br>
Posted by: Topper

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 01/24/08 06:30 AM

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ0OCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==<br><br>http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/editorial/display/2007-awards.html<br><br>
Posted by: Topper

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 02/07/08 07:12 AM

From bjorn3d:<br><br>"Whew! Another completely awesome video card has hit the market and we're sure that it will titillate both the general consumer and computer enthusiast alike. As far as performance goes, the ASUS® XFX GeForce® EN8800GTS TOP literally blows away both the 8800GT XXX and the 8800GTX XXX although in some cases albeit by a slim margin. The EN8800GTS TOP ran extremely cool and was moderately quiet even under heavy loads in our test rig."<br><br><br><br>
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 02/07/08 08:14 AM

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>literally blows away<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>That card mut have a heck of a powerful fan on it! <br><br>[color:red]&#63743;</font color=red> [color:orange]&#63743;</font color=orange> [color:yellow]&#63743;</font color=yellow> [color:green]&#63743;</font color=green> [color:blue]&#63743;</font color=blue> [color:purple]&#63743;</font color=purple>
Posted by: Topper

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 02/07/08 09:01 AM

Maybe they added this: <br><br><br><br>
Posted by: DLC

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 02/07/08 09:39 AM

Dell by Samsung...??<br><br> no Chinese new company called Wei Hung Dong ! <br><br><br>you're right.<br><br>David (OFI)
Posted by: DoubleSight

Re: Good 22" or 24" monitor? - 11/18/08 05:36 PM

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