10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems!

Posted by: MacGizmo

10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 09:42 AM

This stolen from MacFixIt (incase it's gone when you visit mfi)<br><br>Troubleshooting Mac OS X 10.2.8: Ethernet connections; Dual Display configuration; Permissions problems; more <br><br>Ethernet connections Perhaps the most widely reported problem reported after updating to Mac OS X 10.2.8 is loss of network access. It appears that in most cases, the failure is happening because DHCP self-assigns an IP address. <br><br>In some cases, 100 Mbps Ethernet continues to work, but the 10 Mbps mode is disabled. George Warner writes "The Mac OS X 10.2.8 update installed fine but I lost networking including ability to talk to my Apple Airport Extreme. After some experimenting, I was able to determine that my Mac (Dual-500 G4) was not able to talk to my 10 Base-T network. 10 Base-T is the least common denominator on my LAN. I require it for some other devices. Apparently, my updated Mac is stuck at 100 Base-T. A hub which provides a 10 to 100 bridge was able to band-aid my problem." <br><br>The solution is to revert the AppleGMACEthernet.kext from the new version (1.3.0) to the 10.2.6 version (1.2.4) and reboot. This file is located in System/Library/Extensions. You can pull this file from an older Mac OS X system that has not yet been updated, then replace it by booting into Mac OS 9 and overwriting the old file (which you should back up, just in case). <br><br>Alternatively, a poster on Apple's Discussion boards has uploaded the old .kext file to his Web server. <br><br>Of course, the main problem is that many readers who need this fix are not able to access the Internet after performing the Mac OS X 10.2.8 update. If you know some fellow Mac users who might be experiencing the issue, you may want to bring them the old AppleGMACEthernet.kext file on a CD. <br><br>Also, it is not yet known what other problems might be caused by using the old .kext file with the new version of Mac OS X. <br><br>System modifications/haxies Several readers report problems with haxies and other system modifications. The shareware utility Transparent Dock, in particular, no longer works for some readers. <br><br>FireWalk X2 also apparently seems to be losing functionality for some readers after the update. <br><br>UPDATE: Pliris Software, creator of FireWalk X2, told us "Apple removed a function from the kernel that we used to detect the current processor capabilities which is why our KEXT doesn't load on Mac OS X 10.2.7 or later. Yesterday we released Firewalk X 2 2.2.8 which corrects this problem, among others." <br><br>Dual Display configuration MacFixIt reader Graham Jones, along with a handful of other readers report that they had to reset their monitor preferences after installing Mac OS X 10.2.8. "My Dual G4/1.25 with Mac OS X 10.2.8 forgets screen sizes and reverses the arrangement of the two monitors." <br><br>Permissions problems One MacFixIt reader writes "After updating to Mac OS X 10.2.8, I am unable to use Disk Utility to repair permissions. About a minute after starting repair permissions, the screen goes black and the system is completely locked up. I've been troubleshooting this for about four hours with no luck." <br><br>Several other readers have since corroborated this issue. <br><br>The solution is to boot from the Mac OS X 10.2 CD (or another, sans-Mac OS X 10.2.8 volume) and then run repair permissions. <br><br>I can repair permissions by booting from the Jaguar CD. <br><br>Keyboard/mouse problems MacFixIt reader Ben Rosenthal writes: <br><br>"Keyboard and Mouse preference panes have been combined in Mac OS X 10.2.8, as in Panther. And, I seem to have lost trackpad support on my Lombard 400. I ran the update late last night, but only noticed the loss this morning, as my occasion to use the trackpad is minimized by my Apple Pro Mouse. However, I have occasion, e.g., to option click a link in Safari to download, and I use the trackpad button for this action." <br><br>UPDATE: Rosenthal now writes "I restarted into single user mode to run fsck (Ed.- hold down the shift key at startup and type /sbin/fsck -y ). Repaired a handful of orphaned indirect nodes, in addition to two or three other problems. Restarted once more to login and the trackpad worked. <br><br>Updates: (9:30 AM PDT) <br><br>Icons not appearing Several readers have reported problems with icons not appearing properly. Repairing disk permissions with Apple's Disk Utility seems to fix most of the broken icons, while others can be manually restored via Mitch Wayne's method: <br><br>"I had to use the Get Info panel to tell the system what application to use to open the doc, and then perform a Change All to fix all similar docs." <br><br>Linksys Router needs new firmware It appears that Mac OS X 10.2.8 requires the the latest version of Linksys' router driver software for proper operation. Peter Hillman writes <br><br>"I updated my Linksys Router BEFSR41 with their latest firmware version, 1.45.7. (I had 1.45.6). The firmware version fixes the following: <br><br>* Supports multi-L2TP-pass-through<br>* Supports DHCP relay agent<br>* Fixed fragmented packets arriving out of order.<br><br><br>"After updating the router, I powered everything down. I powered up the router, did a reset by pushing the reset button until the red light came on. Then I powered up my cable modem and waited for a signal. After I had a signal, I reset the router again. Then I powered up my PowerBook and everything works again. I launched Explorer and my <br><br>
Posted by: DaddyMac

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 09:53 AM

I launched Explorer and my <br><br>my what...? my WHAT?!!!!!!<br><br>Thanks, Giz...I will stay right here at 10.2.6 for a while..<br><br>
Posted by: Optimus_George

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 10:38 AM

I had absolutely none of the problems mentioned. Other than Transparent Dock not working. Which is no big deal to me.<br><br>
Posted by: drjohn

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 10:48 AM

Thanks, Giz. I downloaded it overnight and was about to install it. Instead, I think I'll pass on this update.<br><br>drjohn
Posted by: Mactico

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 10:54 AM

10.2.8 very smooth, Transparent Dock works fine here in my Pismo 500.<br><br>
Posted by: Mactico

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 11:05 AM

10.2.8 problems from Apple Support Discussion Forum<br><br>
Posted by: JonnyCat

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 11:19 AM

a suggestion from a long time windows user (me). Cause windows always seemed to suck at doing updates unless I did this -<br><br><br>Here is what I do for updates.<br><br>1) Close all applications and disconnect all network shares (iDisk etc.)<br>2) Reboot computer so it is fresh<br>3) Run updates with fresh launch<br><br>Now I realize some programs will always be incompatible with a new version of OS but I have yet to have a problem on any update yet using this method.<br><br>My theory is, with a fresh boot the OS will have a clear mind to do it's stuff. And it is most likely the way SQA at Apple tested the update to see if it works.<br><br>Did the iMac last night without a hitch. Going for the PB tonite.<br><br>[color:blue]Coming soon...</font color=blue>
Posted by: RubenC

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 11:31 AM

I think I'm still gonna wait.<br><br>
Posted by: sross

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 11:38 AM

Me too.<br><br>
Posted by: JonnyCat

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 11:39 AM

waiting is good too. If it ain't broke....<br><br>I always do the PowerMac and iBook last - those are the two most important computers which we use regularily.<br><br>And when Ginny was on the last month of her MBA degree - we didn't dare do any updates at all. The risk of losing a machine was too great.<br><br>[color:blue]Coming soon...</font color=blue>
Posted by: Mcteak

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 12:00 PM

Got it...works fine....driving on!<br><br>
Posted by: walzuhair

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 12:29 PM

The only problem I encountered so far is iSync with my SonyEricsson P800 over Bluetooth. iSync cannot see the P800, but Bluetooth works OK since I can exchange files between it and the Mac.<br><br><br>DigitalEye
Posted by: JohnR

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 01:01 PM

And I did the exact opposite. I downloaded and installed while simutaneously surfing and chatting on iChat. And it's smooth sailing <br><br>My stuff for sale.
Posted by: JonnyCat

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 01:20 PM

...there goes John running with scissors...<br><br>[color:blue]Coming soon...</font color=blue>
Posted by: MacGizmo

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 01:22 PM

I guess I should say for the record that I ran the software update on my iBook while surfing the net last night and other than Transparent Dock not working, everything went smooth. I haven't installed it on my tower yet, but I'm sure it'll be fine. I will be using the Combo update to upgrade my tower.<br><br>
Posted by: JohnR

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 01:23 PM

hehe..yeah. I know....I ask for it eh?<br><br>My stuff for sale.
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 06:04 PM

No problems with the update here, either. I'm running Repair Permissions right now as I type this--no black screen. My ethernet is working fine. I have Clear Dock, and that's still functioning, as are the other haxies I have.<br><br> Alas, poor Yorick. -- Hamlet
Posted by: DaddyMac

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 07:45 PM

Yeah, but 10.2.8 made your CAR disappear...<br><br>No WAY am I installing it!!<br><br>
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 08:17 PM

I thought you'd claimed the carjacking!<br><br> Alas, poor Yorick. -- Hamlet
Posted by: DaddyMac

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/23/03 08:22 PM

That was only me funnin' you....this 10.2.8 thing is DANGEROUS.<br><br>
Posted by: G4Dualie

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/24/03 04:09 PM

Installed yesterday and still going strong. No hiccups whatsoever. Perhaps it's because I'm driving a mirrored-door mac. <br><br><br><br>"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates
Posted by: yoyo52

Re: 10.2.8 - a LOAD of problems! - 09/24/03 06:06 PM

I'm on the superhighway in one of the original AGP PMs, all of 400 MHz. This baby's cooking on 10.2.8 too <br><br> Alas, poor Yorick. -- Hamlet