#8532 - 06/01/0201:26 AMRe: Moved to tears
I am not disconnected Terry. Very much in tune and aware of the tragedies in this world. I just don't get emotional about things like that. Geez, 500,000 people died in the genocide between the Hutus and the other tribe in Africa some years ago(can't remember their name now), no one blinked an eye. I guess if it were someone in my own family circle or circle of friends, I would react differently. But, I have just never really been exposed to any personal tragedy in my life and even if I were, I think I would have a certain detachment about it. That's just the way I am, no apologies. <br><br>
i tend to agree with some of what you write. i didn't see the thing on tv so i don't know if i would have been moved. knowing me, i might have, but at some point a person can feel all cried out and i watched a lot of 20/20's and primetimes giving personal stories related to the tragedy. i am spent. i agree with you that things happen worldwide that we all tend to ignore all of the time. the world is too small these days to pretend that we're all that matters or that we are more significant than others. everyone counts.<br><br>terry11 did post a flash file about a week ago (maybe at MC) that was a photo slide show from 9.11. everyone who posted agreed that it was very moving, etc. i then watched it and could only think of how it seemed that someone was trying to capitalize on the tragedy. i also didn't like the references to revenge. i just thought it was the wrong way to make a tribute to the fallen. i didn't get choked up at all. now, this isn't to say i am a heartless bastard or anything...i am usually the first guy wiping tears away at sad movies. i get sad from little things in every day life (usually sad stories i hear related to children). i am ready to move past the nyc tragedies and think about the tragedies in everyday life that may not add up to the numbers at the wtc, but are lost lives none-the-less. i am not saying anyone else has to move past the wtc events...obviously some people were much more connected; i speak for myself only.<br><br>[color:blue] -sean</font color=blue>
Reading the responses to this thread, I have to observe – the "get over it, mover forward, yeah it was tragic, but over done witih gone" were all from the guys. Granted, we Mac Babes probably number, what, 5? 6?<br><br>FWIW, I am not even remotely a feminist, but I gotta say – the male response to this post is perhaps insight into why we keep suffering war, from way back when until time eternal.<br><br>It ain't personal, guys, but . . .<br><br>Gawd, Lea, you're off the board for months, and you have to come back with a provocative post?<br><br>Duh. Yeah.<br><br>[color:blue]A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men. – W. Wonka</font color=blue>
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And there is nothing wrong with that, my husband thinks the same way. I am the type that cries at any stories of neglect or abuse of animals or children or elderly on the local news. Not body wracking sobs but my eyes tear up and I can't stop it. I also cry every single time I watch "The Incredible Journey", when it looks like Bodger isn't coming back, no matter how many times & I know the outcome. I always tear up when I hear of nice things too. It's a female thing. My husband tends to think I'm too sensitive sometimes, but I am what I am.<br><br>Cheers, iRock<br>
I hafta put my 2 cents in here as well. I'm exactly like you iRock. I get teary at the smallest things. I get easily upset at some of the threads in these forums. I've been accused of being too sensitive and I can't deny it. It's what makes us female. Thank goodness we make up approximately 50% of the world population. I suspect it would be a more cruel and brutal world without us!<br><br><br><br>
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
Thanks, Lea & Marge. Hop up here on the pink, frilly raft floating in the sea of testosterone & grab a hankie. But then again, men, *sigh* what would life be without 'em?<br>Let's Go Grrls!<br><br>Cheers, iRock<br>
OK, I'll throw in another 2 cents.... The world would be a MUCH bigger mess if women were higher up in Politics and the Military. The fact that men are less emotional is the only thing that keeps the world somewhat stable. The events of 9/11 were indeed tragic. It makes me sick to think about it, but I don't think about it often because, as Mike said, its done and over and we have to move on. This kind of tragedy happens daily in other parts of the world - if everyone got emotional, their fingers would be pushing buttons every dang day... you know which buttons I'm talking about.<br><br>Men have the uncanny ability to "blow things off." They don't hold grudges to often, and tend to look at the bigger picture more often than women do. An example I'm particularly fond of is this: If a guy walks up to a bunch of other guys playing basketball and he's wearing a butt-ugly tie. The guys playing b-ball don't sit there and talk about his tie or him. And that guy can just jump right into the game without asking 7 times out of 10. Now, a woman walks up to a bunch of women and she's wearing a really skanky looking dress. The other women immediately start whispering about here, and give her the evil eye - and the woman wouldn't DARE attempt to "invite herself along on a shopping trip with other women she doesn't know." I realize this is a silly example, but it gets my point across. And in case you're wondering why I like it so much... it was a women that told me about it.<br><br>OK, now you MacBabes can starting hitting me with your iPurse! <br><br>[color:red]semicolon dash parenthesis</font color=red>
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Men have the uncanny ability to "blow things off."<p><hr></blockquote><p>This is no ability. It's just a result of men having memories like a sieve. Information goes in and out of the brain like water through sand. Women remember everything that was ever said or done to them. Our brains are crammed with every little detail of who said what to whom and when. <br><br>It just sits there in waiting for the day that info can come back to haunt ya. <br><br><br><br>
Well, dress me in pink then, because I don't think it's "time to move on" quite yet. At least not privately or emotionally. Like Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust, this is something that has impacted the whole country — hell, the world — as much as the individual victims and their families. <br><br>On the other hand, I do think it's time for the media and politicians to lower the volume on the rhetoric a lot. This was a tragic event, and while it was global in scope, it's now time to allow those directly involved to continue their grieving process privately, and out of the spotlight. I'm a 20 minute walk from from Ground Zero, yet I didn't go to the final tribute on Thursday because I did not want to feel like a spectator among those who truly deserved to be there. I watched it on TV, and I was still overwhelmed by the emotion.<br><br>Interesting article in the Times today: fewer than 10 families have completed the paper work to recieve benefits from the 911 Fund! Only 500 hundred have filed partial applications. This is partly because the aplication and process are so daunting (30 pages alone for the death benefit section!). But the majority of families have said they are not yet past their grief, and are not yet ready to sit down and begin calculating the "material value" of thier lost loved ones.<br><br>You could argue that losing someone in a car accident, or due to a heart attack is just as tragic. And it is in the context of family. But a car accident does not deeply wound the world, does not throw one's own personal loss out there for all to see in the global media where it's magnified 1000-fold.<br><br>So guys, I gotta tell ya *wipes mascara from eyelid* "moving on" for many just ain't as easy or as appropriate as it seems.<br><br>
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