When you're ready to expose the truth and ALL the details of your involvement, let the folks here know. Until then, try not to poison the efforts of a good bunch of people doing a very good thing.<br><br>You are definitely a master of self-righteousness. But you haven't fooled those in the know.<br><br>In the end, it's your loss.<br><br>[color:red]Alec</font color=red>

First of all, there is NO RULE that says you have to say ANYTHING at all about MacCentral. The bio is for publicity purposes only. The signature on the actual prints is to add value for the auction. It is all going to a very good cause, and there were plenty of posts telling everyone about what was going on and all the new additions to the project. YOU chose not to keep up with it, nobody HID this information from you.<br><br>Just because you are too childish and immature to handle the forum split, doesn't mean that you have to bad-mouth the dozens of people who have put in hours and hours of work, and all the printing, shipping and publicity donations that several companies have contributed.<br><br>While I didn't agree with the forum split either, it's just a damn chat forum, it isn't that big of a deal, I don't know why you took it so personally. You spouted off to everyone but Santa Claus about the split and managed to tick off a lot of people - so if you feel slighted in some way - well, honestly we don't give a damn! <br><br>We worked very hard on this Mosaic Project and I for one am damn proud to put my name on it. I don't know when your tile was booted out, or who made the decision, but you obviously have no interest in helping the charity (which all artists were welcome to vote on, by the way) then you lose your right to complain about the way the project was managed. Nobody got PAYED to do this, it was the goodness of the heart from people like Nebo, SteveG, Alec, Shooshie, JohnnyCat, JimD, and others who made it happen.<br><br>In closing, you asked "Did I miss something?", well the answer is yes. You missed the day God handed out maturity, compassion, common sense, tact, and now you will more than likely miss the 35 friends you HAD that worked on the project.<br><br>[color:red]semicolon dash parenthesis</font color=red>

NTO1, you disappoint all of us. Big time. You have chosen to play your side of the record only — and in abridged, self-serving fashion at that. The bottom line is that your grudge against MC is so deep and bitter, that you were unwilling to separate it from the context of the Mosaic project. You were, in effect, attempting to hold the project hostage to satisfy your ego. Not wanting to use your name was NOT the issue. Refusing to set aside your vendetta for the greater good IS the issue. <br><br>So now you come in hear and begin yet another, broader "Oh poor me" slander campaign. NTO1, learn to pick your battles, or expect to collect more scars.<br><br>

A simpler look.<br><br>Names of the artist are important to the Buyer. If I purchased this Mosaic I certainly would not want an Anonymous person claiming rights or royalties from me.<br><br>Bio ads personality to the whole project itself. "Look at all the artist from all over the world with their vastly different personalities" The Bio will present that knowlage to the owners who will purchase this work of art.<br><br>As for the heavy hand I am sadden that it even went this far with you. Maybe you both can still talk about it and make a compromise.<br><br>

Well, I will agree with you on one point - the project certainly has grown far larger than it's original vision - that growth sucked some of the fun and spontaneousness out of the effort ...<br><br>However, rather that throw a hissy-fit over the growing requests for bios, pics, etc, for the various marketing efforts, you could have just given them your name, what city you live in, politely declined to offer a bio, and left it at that ... It worked for me ...<br><br>I agree though, that the growing expectations of the individual artists to contribute more than just their artwork - especially when that artwork had already been completed - got to be very angering at one point ...<br><br>Sorry to see your contribution go, if that is what in fact has happened ... after all, it *is* a good cause =)<br><br>FWIW,<br><br>***matt<br><br>

Regarding the bio: It didn't have to be a FULL bio. I sent in about 10 lines of text stating my name, how I met my wife, a few hobies, and a VERY brief description of my tile. It took all of 10 minutes. Is your day so busy that you couldn't spare 10 minutes.<br><br>[color:red]semicolon dash parenthesis</font color=red>

The Mosaic was was started by a Forum member. That member and the subsequent members who put their time into the project have every right to decide what's in or out. NTO1 is being very childish, as he has been in the past... (and, by all means NTO1, flame me as much as you want...) The staff did not throw him out, no one threw him out. His choice to not fulfill the requirements for the project was also a choice to not participate. We have replaced the space with a tile made by someone who is mature enough to follow the rules.<br><br><br>[i]the quest continues...

Well, since it is all you guys who started the project, guess everyone has to play by your requirements. Sounds fair.<br><br>What I was pissed off to read was being thrown out for not being Pro MacCentral. That certainly doesn't seem to be the case here. I too don't like the MacCentral website anymore, but would love to participate in the next round of this project.<br><br>Like everyone has mentioned, just mentioning one's name and writing a few lines about oneself, is what was required. Quite a simple task.<br><br>--<br>I am dangerous. I am Dyslexic of Borg. Fusistance is retile. Your a$$ will be laminated.

To be fair, the only *requirement* of the project was that one complete a tile within given time constraints ... which NOT1 satisfied ...<br><br>All the other stuff came into being after the project was under way and some tiles had been completed ... the whole bio/photo for marketing purposes was thought-up after I finished my tile, for instance - and I was third from the last to finish ...<br><br>So it's extremely likely that he satisifed his end of the deal before additional "requirements" were laid-on ...<br><br>Not to defend the way he handled the matter ... just that he had a very good point to begin with ... and that the situation is probably not as black-and-white as you paint it ...<br><br>=)<br><br>***matt<br><br>

Well then I must be missing something too, NTO1. I never gave my real name either, and don't intend to. I'm known as SgtBaxter on the forum, that's how I'll be known as the tile creator. Well that's how I'll be signing the thing anyway, I guess they'll need my name to deliver the thing. <br><br>Oh yeah, if they want a photo of me<br><<<---- there it is.<br><br><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by SgtBaxter on 05/10/02 04:06 PM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>