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iOS 9 fubar #634174 09/21/15 06:50 PM
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If you're going to upgrade to iOS 9 first thing is to make sure you back it up through iTunes, and turn off find my iPhone/iPad. I always do anyway before any upgrade but most people just trust the mighty Apple and go for it.

http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/18/how-to-fix-slide-to-upgrade-error-ios-9/

http://www.macrumors.com/2015/09/18/slide-to-upgrade-wont-slide-fix-ios-9/

I ran into one today that was stuck. I tried to back it up and it said that it had not been activated yet, because it was stuck in the middle of upgrading probably.

I tried a Restore from an earlier date and it said I needed to turn off find my iPhone but we can't access it because the phone is stuck on the upgrade. Tried turning it off through icloud.com but it appears he didn't have the phone on wireless because it couldn't find the phone or it is so stuck it never made it to the point where wireless is turned on.

We made an Apple Store appointment. Sigh. Sad state of affairs at Apple R&D. They even released a beta and no one had this problem?

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Had sales woman here who's screen was inactive. Apparently from the last iOS update. Couldn't restore cuz she couldn't turn off Find My iPhone so she called Apple and showed her how to do it through her iCloud account online.
Sounds like your clients has gone round the bend a bit further.

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Why turn off Find my iPhone? First I've heard of this.

Luckily, I had no problems. 1. Backup to iCloud & computer. 2. Download only from iTunes, then install.

It amazes me how many people don't use iTunes AT ALL.

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You have to turn it off in order to do a Restore.

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Re: iOS 9 fubar [Re: NucleusG4] #634185 09/22/15 12:09 AM
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Ahh, for a restore. Reboot made it sound like it should be turned off before an update.
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Re: iOS 9 fubar [Re: Acumowchek] #634193 09/22/15 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted By: Acumowchek
Ahh, for a restore. Reboot made it sound like it should be turned off before an update.
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I do that just in case. I also backup to my computer first just in case. I also backup to my computer on a regular basis, it makes for a more complete and faster Restore if necessary.

I've done this stuff once or twice. grin

But what do I know. smirk

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I'll keep that in mind next update. Honest, I've never heard of that before.

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Neither have I. I just update using the Software Update on the phone and had no problems.

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Originally Posted By: John Rougeux
Neither have I. I just update using the Software Update on the phone and had no problems.
I never said that it will keep you from having problems though. It's in case one has problems one can back out of them.

Or in the case of not having enough room on the phone to update with just the phone, backing up and updating through iTunes works around that.

But what do I know, I only do this stuff on a daily basis for a living. grin

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I backup to iTunes before every iOS update. I haven't had issues on my phone, but when I upgraded my wife's 4 ti iOS 7.whatever, the update failed. I had to restore the phone, apply the update and then restore from the backup to get it back up and running.I always let iTunes do the heavy lifting rather than the phone. As for routine backups, my phone automatically backs up to iCloud when it feels like it, and I try to do a manual backup to iTunes on a monthly basis when I let the phone's battery drain.


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I didn't think I was crazy. Finally somebody else with some sense. grin

As you see it helped you back out of a bad upgrade. It is a much quicker restore doing it from iTunes as opposed to iCloud. Especially if you make sure you let it copy all apps from the phone during the backup, otherwise it has to download all of them again.

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You shouldn't let the battery drain... not good for LiPo batteries.

Also.. iOS 9 has a new feature.
Low Power Mode


http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/09/2...es-battery-life

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Yes, I'm aware of the low power mode. Battery usage has never been an issue for me. As for drianing the battery from time to time, I've heard several arguments, pro and con, on whether it keeps the battery in prime condition.


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Originally Posted By: NucleusG4
You shouldn't let the battery drain... not good for LiPo batteries.
Not true. It helps to calibrate the computer/sensor in the battery so it knows how much of a charge it has. Same for laptop batteries.

What is bad is to let one drain all the way and sit that way for weeks or months. That will kill the battery since it will slowly discharge below the cutoff rate that the hardware shuts off at. When it gets below a certain charge level it can't be recharged.

And since no one here ever believes me; cry

http://www.appledystopia.com/how-to/calibrate-iphone-battery/

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/bu_502a_over_discharging_lithium_ion

Li-ion should not be discharged below the manufacturer specified level and there are several safeguards to prevent this from happening. The equipment cuts off when the battery discharges to about 3.0V/cell, stopping the current flow. If the discharge continues to about 2.70V/cell and lower, the battery’s protection circuit may put the battery into a sleep mode. This renders the pack unserviceable and a recharge with many chargers is not possible. To prevent a battery from falling asleep, apply a partial charge before storage.

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Hmmm. ok. I had read up on LiPo batteries recently and read that you can make them last longer by not fully charging or discharging them, keeping them between 20 and 80%. Hence the first warning you get at 20%.

The reason to discharge is to calibrate the battery sensor, not the battery... which is reflected in your little green power bar. These batteries last for years and have no memory... and I don't think a batteries effectiveness will change much at all in only a month. The only benefit to discharging them is so the green bar is more accurate.

Also.. Apple says nothing about draining your battery to extend life... in an article about maximizing performance.
http://www.apple.com/batteries/maximizing-performance/

If one wants to extend battery life they would be wise to find out what needless things are sucking up the juice.
http://www.payetteforward.com/why-does-my-iphone-battery-die-so-fast-heres-the-real-fix/

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omg, I am here for a Mac related question. How is everyone?


Anyway, the word fubar gives me pause. Unless it means Fantastic Unequivocally Beyond All Reason. My son and I are two of the 48 percent who haven't taken the plunge yet. Should we dive in? My son had a bad experience with the last first digit upgrade and is wary and I am always wary. Anybody who would take it back now if they could've waited?


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iPhone? No way. I've had 5 different models and am expecting my 6th this Friday.
Good to see ya.

Re: iOS 9 fubar [Re: lanovami] #634266 09/23/15 07:13 PM
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Just make sure you turn off Find my iPhone and back it up to iTunes first in case the bug bites you.

Personally I'm waiting till the bug fix till I upgrade. I hate fixing my own stuff. I'm not getting paid for it! laugh

On the OS I'll jump into beta/new versions, but on a different drive from my production drive. On the phone there's no different drive option so I don't do first versions.

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9.0.1 is available now

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thanks Reboot. I'll take that advice from someone who works with this stuff for his supper.

Nuke, I'd like that comment if I had the option. smile

John, hadn't seen that an update is up. Thanks.


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Does signing out turn Find My iPhone off?


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Originally Posted By: lanovami
Does signing out turn Find My iPhone off?
You mean signing out of iCloud on the phone? Yes but you're turning the iCloud backup off too. You can always just turn Find My Phone off in the same screen.

If you mean signing out of icloud.com no, you would need to go to the device at icloud.com under Find My Phone. Devices, and x out to tell it to forget the phone. That should flip the Find My Phone switch on the phone to off, you need to be connected to wifi on the phone though for it to work.

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Originally Posted By: John Rougeux
9.0.1 is available now
That supposedly fixes the setup assistant bug and a few other things.

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by forget to you mean erase? this is the option I see on my Find My iPhone screen. Hope I'm not being obtuse.


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This is way over my head. I used to be ahead of the curve too. I need to go to some place called icloud.com to do this? I do have Find My iPhone on my phone. I went to that website and it asks me if I want to install it though I already have it.


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I'm not "set up for iCloud on this device" as far as I know, which is another thing icloud.com wants me to do. If it's not set up then maybe I don't need to worry about disconnecting?

I have already backed up my iPhone 6 to iTunes


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Go to settings, iCloud. If iCloud's on it won't ask you to turn it on. If it is on and you scroll down you'll see find my iPhone near the bottom. You'll also see sign out. If you don't see sign out or any green buttons you're probably not signed into iCloud.

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Originally Posted By: lanovami
This is way over my head. I used to be ahead of the curve too. I need to go to some place called icloud.com to do this? I do have Find My iPhone on my phone. I went to that website and it asks me if I want to install it though I already have it.
Are you signing in to iCloud online with the same ID that is on your phone if you go to settings, iCloud? I ran into one a couple weeks ago where the guy had three different Apple IDs. Drove me crazy wondering why the stuff in iCloud on Safari was different from his phone. He was signed in with one ID on his phone, and signed in to iCloud in Safari with a different ID.

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iCloud setting has me signed up for the same ID I use for most things (yes I have more than one because sometimes I want to get stuff from the US store that the Japanese one won't let me have).

forgive if I repeat but I should then sign out of iCloud and or Find my iPhone.

I had no idea Find my iPhone had so many used beyond, you know, finding my iPhone.

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If you are just updating the phone, I wouldn't worry about turning off Find Your Phone. I upgraded mine and Amy's this way with no problems.

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Originally Posted By: John Rougeux
If you are just updating the phone, I wouldn't worry about turning off Find Your Phone. I upgraded mine and Amy's this way with no problems.
Man you're hardheaded John. You seem to be missing the point. As I told you above, it's not that having it on causes the problems. If it was on and then there were problems you could not back the phone up in order to restore to that point in time.

Plus you keep insisting because you had no problems that nobody else should. Thousands of people had problems. Not because find my phone was on, but once they had problems they couldn't back out of it because find my phone was on and they couldn't turn it off since they were locked out of the phone.

When the guy I mentioned above took his into the Apple Store yesterday there were four other people in there with the same problem.

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Well.. I think you don't even need to go to iCloud for this.
Just turn it off on your phone and update.

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BTW.. nice to see you in here again after your hiatus.

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Yes nice to see you all. I updated - I believe I made a mistake by switching to another user (my primary one) which confused the upgrade process right when the phone wanted to talk to iTunes. It was even telling me I would need to restore my iPhone, but somehow turning iTunes on and off fixed things and it recognized the iPhone, which looked frozen mid update. I was happy I'd backed up to iTunes and taken the extra steps suggested - though luckily in the end I didn't need it in the end.

I don't know what they did but the keyboard is easier to use; I'm making many less typos than usual.


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I love it when a plan comes together.

BTW you just got back from a trip to the states right?

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And he didn't even drink a beer with us.... grin

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Nuke, I LIKE your comment smile

yes I did - 5 weeks in the States. Hope I'm not making this thread go FUBAR. (can I say I love the new font and are the letter in the keyboard on my phone somehow better placed? Sure seems so.)

I went to Vancouver CA, Portland, Seattle, Lafayette and New Orleans, numerous exciting Iowa locations, Omaha, LA, and the Sequioa Nat'l Park/Forest. Never done so many places on one home trip. A bit hectic but worth it.


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