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The Rotten Apple Software thread. #626372 01/06/15 06:59 PM
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Apple has long marketed its products as easy-to-use and bug-free with the "it just works" slogan. Arment notes that the motto was "never completely true," but Apple products are now operating far from that goal.

We've all expressed the same concerns, hope Apple takes note of public opinion.

How much of that close to 200B in cash would it take to have a top notch R&D department that they could use as a selling point.

But what do I know. smirk

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Agreed. The thrill of Yosemite has worn off. Now I'd like something that works, please. whistle

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Eh, IMO a terribly written column with innuendos but no facts.

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Arment, who is the host of the popular Accidental Tech Podcast, said his Mac is "riddled with embarrassing bugs and fundamental regressions."
He said that Mac users used to make fun of Windows for the same bugs.


Hey buddy, how about providing more information than that?

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Eh, IMO a terribly written column with innuendos but no facts.

Hey buddy, how about providing more information than that?
He provided plenty of information. Maybe it's because you're busy that you didn't follow any of the links in his article, or the links within the links. Even without those I wouldn't have posted that if I didn't concur.

On the average over the last 20 years I've worked on more different Macs, PCs, operating systems and digital devices in a week than the average user does in a lifetime. I've seen a trend since Jobs started getting out of the picture.

I still prefer Apple's products, their hardware is very reliable compared to any other. Software related though I've seen a decline in the finished product post Jobs.

What do I know though. smirk

Re: Rotten Apple software. [Re: Reboot] #626381 01/07/15 03:09 AM
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As long as my non-Apple apps work, I'm okay with it.
It's the Apple apps I gots a problem with.
I'm not buying a new computer just to be able to use Handoff. Or spend hours trying to figure out why AirDrop doesn't work as advertised. Or why preferences change for no reason. None of them are show-stoppers, but it makes me have to remember a fix from months ago… tongue

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You are right Jim, I didn't click the links and I wonder how many others didn't. For me, the article should have everything, not just links for others to follow. Makes for a poorly written article.

In fact, the author even had an update on his blog which included this:
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Instead of what was intended to be constructive criticism of the most influential company in my life, I handed the press more poorly written fuel to hamfistedly stab Apple with my name and reputation behind it. And my name will be on that forever.

Had I known that it would go as far as it did, I never would have written it.


That said, the links he posted included:
iOS 8.0.1 bug, which was fixed 2 days later. That was a QC issue and I agree...shouldn't have been an issue if they tested everything, but considering that this is version 8 and exactly how many "bugs" were there since the beginning? Not that many if I recall correctly. And to fix it in 2 days is pretty quick.


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According to open source software company Red Hat, it affects any device that uses the operating system Linux -- which includes everything from calculators to cars. But it also affects Apple (AAPL, Tech30) Macs and some Windows and IBM machines. Google (GOOG) said no Android machines are susceptible.

This wasn't an Apple only thing and so it was fixed quickly.


3rd link is about Bluetooth and the iPhone 6, not iOS8:
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The problem seems to be confined to the iPhone 6 alone -- not the new iOS 8 software recently pushed out by Apple. Drivers say their updated iPhone 5's and 5S phones work fine, but their iPhone 6's don't.



There was one thing on his blog that I do agree with:
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The problem seems to be quite simple: they’re doing too much, with unrealistic deadlines.

We don’t need major OS releases every year. We don’t need each OS release to have a huge list of new features. We need our computers, phones, and tablets to work well first so we can enjoy new features released at a healthy, gradual, sustainable pace.



I'm not going to click links within links to read about something that he should have summarized in his article. It's just lazy writing to just put links in.

But, none of the above even touched on what I posted above and he put in that blog post:

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Arment, who is the host of the popular Accidental Tech Podcast, said his Mac is "riddled with embarrassing bugs and fundamental regressions."
He said that Mac users used to make fun of Windows for the same bugs.


No links or facts to back that up. Not even screenshots.

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BTW, I'm not saying everything is perfect. I'm just saying that article is a poorly written one.

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Originally Posted By: Acumowchek
As long as my non-Apple apps work, I'm okay with it.
It's the Apple apps I gots a problem with.
I'm not buying a new computer just to be able to use Handoff. Or spend hours trying to figure out why AirDrop doesn't work as advertised. Or why preferences change for no reason. None of them are show-stoppers, but it makes me have to remember a fix from months ago… tongue


Businesses need people to keep purchasing stuff from them. And Handoff is a cool feature that probably requires some hardware (or software that old hardware can't handle/run). I don't blame them making us get new computers for this.

Airdrop has worked great for me. First I have heard of you having problems with it. Post about it in the Software section or somewhere else and let's see if we can figure it out.

As far as Preferences changing....are you talking System Prefs? Only difference that I notice is that they took away the "view all" option when you select a single pref.

Re: Rotten Apple software. [Re: John Rougeux] #626400 01/07/15 06:22 PM
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My 2011 iMac doesn't have the required Bluetooth for Handoff.
AirDrop works with local Macs in the vicinity, but with my iPhone? Sometimes it works, most times, not. Following tips on the forums, I've had to do things like change my Apple ID, then change it back, reboot both devices, switch between "everyone", "contacts only" and "off". Occasionally, these workarounds help.
My main preferences beef is, my Epson printer will default back to factory settings every time I turn it on. Yes, that is an Epson problem. Illustrator has had settings problems, and the only way to fix it was trashing the prefs. This didn't happen with Mavericks.

Bottom line? One of these days I've got to do a clean install! grin

Re: Rotten Apple software. [Re: John Rougeux] #626406 01/08/15 01:05 AM
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Bugs or user error? That is the question.
Remember the uproar over the change to OS X? wink

I have had no problems with iOS8 and my 6+. I can't vouch for any Mac OS iteration past Lion, though (hardware age).


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