oddly refreshing to hear life from "The Flip-Side"
from what I'd read; Ronald RAY~GUNS earned that nick for OKing the testing of experimental Mobile Active Denial System Technology that killed the Panamanian CIVILIANS by COOKING THEM FROM The INSIDE-OUT.
...and lan... wasn't beheading the favored form execution used by the Japanese?
Loc: Alexandria, VA
NO I'm not slamming BO for not eliminating ISIS. I'm saying his best 2 choices are: 1. Hit them everywhere ! 100% commitment ! (give McCain and Linsey an orgasm !)
2. Get Tha F OUT, NOW !
Those aren't the only choices. He can't do #1 for the reasons you outlined, but he can't do #2 either, because although ISIS isn't an existential threat to the US, they are still a threat that really shouldn't be ignored. So he's having to take a balance between the two ...
OTOH, if we did get *completely* out and left the region to fend for itself, that might actually be a good thing in the long run, so that the world wouldn't be so dependent on the US military to clean stuff up. But that would require accepting the credible risk that leaving ISIS alone would allow them to carry out attacks on US interests, if not the US itself ... and I'm pretty sure a president would get impeached if he/she took that risk ...
So yes, "these people" are barbarians. But to understand "these people," perhaps we ought to look in the mirror.
Okay, so we're looking in the mirror, and we see in a shocking revelation that:
Click to reveal..
Human beings are hypocritical and can do pretty barbaric things to each other ...
I know, right? I was flabbergasted, too -- who'da thunk?
I'm also glad that our mirror-gazing has helped us "understand" that poor fellow who had no choice other than to hack-off a completely innocent person's head on video so he could show the world how big his d!ck is. I really "feel" for that guy. If only Leopold II had been a nicer person ...
And we had no choice but to kill be beejeezus our of Panamanians, and Hatians, and Grenadans, and . . . . As I said. It is barbaric. What your "Show me" reveals is, as you say, commonplace. Precisely. What Mr. musical always does is point to the other--and that as an American living in the Philippines, for god's sake.
_________________________ MACTECHubi dolor ibi digitus
Loc: Alexandria, VA
from what I'd read; Ronald RAY~GUNS earned that nick for OKing the testing of experimental Mobile Active Denial System Technology that killed the Panamanian CIVILIANS by COOKING THEM FROM The INSIDE-OUT. sick
- Specifically designed to be non-lethal - Heats surfaces (i.e. doesn't "cook from the inside-out") - Developed 2002 forward (so obviously couldn't have been used in the Panama invasion) - Deployment only briefly in Afghanistan where it was never operational
Googling "Panama invasion active denial system" reveals some other links relaying rumors of testing during the invasion, and this NYT article indicates development and testing prior to 2001. Any of these would be a better source than the wiki link you provided, which refutes pretty much everything you said ;-)
having grown up during the Viet-Nam era (error) I get what David's saying...Spit or Get Off the Pot It used to make me crazy, watching them trickle the troops in like ducks in a shooting gallery
A) obliterate them while the countries they occupy hate them enough to not allow them to embed into the civilian population.
A TOTAL HAMMER BLOW...THEN GET THE F OUT!
B) at least IMO Doing NOTHING is NOT An Option! The ME isn't a piddly-arsed corner of the world that you can simply "pull-the-plug-on" and leave to die.
The ME's been considered the "Cross-Roads of the World" pretty much since The World Began! Both from a Geographic & therefore A Commercial Perspective! ________ WTHell do you think EVERYBODY is scrambling to own or control this freaking bit of scorching sand ......throughout history!
and letz not ferget the spot WE'RE TIED TO Ever Since KING Reagan Ripped the Solar Panels off the WhiteHouse roof to keep his OIL-SOAKED BUDDIES Rolling in OUR Money.
IOW: We Ain't Goin' NOWHERE!
God Help Pres. Obama, I wouldn't be in his shoes for all the couscous in Baghdad!
Do you really REALLY think that Melting Villagers was part of Raytheon's Official Press Releases?
Ted was too young to have served in Viet-Nam... ...so in his military family tradition... after his brother came home from Nam, Ted "jurned up" and served his time in the Panama Canal Zone.
When he got home (just before I met him) he was still in contact with a fellas he'd left behind that's when the letters started trickling back about being sent out on patrols and finding inexplicably what they described as "Melted Villagers".
It was during the inFAMOUS "Star-Wars" BS when old Ron was testing Microwave Technology in a number of ways that were never made public...
...like bouncing Microwaves off the atmosphere (to use as a form of communication ((to do away with the need for global positioned satellites)) that was also dumped... when it was found that the microwaves heated the atmosphere ...causing catastrophic weather phenomenon (oopsey )
umm lots of drug-testing that I'll wager never hit the headlines as well...shocking what those lil buggers get into when (they think) nobody's looking.
Loc: Alexandria, VA
Do you really REALLY think that Melting Villagers was part of Raytheon's Official Press Releases? smile
What I REALLY think is that you'd probably be more convincing if you didn't link to things that directly contradict what you're saying ;-) Those other links/searches would have served you better, I think, even though none that I could find in my brief search had anything really concrete beyond rumors and hearsay ...
As for the nefarious plot by the government to use microwaves in communication, they're used for that all the time. Remember MCI, at one time one of the largest telecoms in the world? Guess what the "M" stood for ... =) Catastrophic weather phenomena? I'd love to see your source for that. In the meantime, I find it more likely a global microwave effort would have been scrapped over efficiency concerns rather than weather effects (but who knows?) ...
I often reach back and grab a Wiki Link just to familiarize people who may not be familiar with a general concept... I don't always bother to read the entire entry since it's not always pertinent to the conversation. like the map of the ME I posted this morning truthfully, I dint read that either.
The source of the Heated Atmosphere information was a HealthFood Guru named Gary Null... I heard that particular broadcast while driving home from Art School something along the lines of 30 years ago. My bad for not fact-checking "research" since then.
"...and lan... wasn't beheading the favored form execution used by the Japanese?"
I am not sure why this is relevant. I just live here. I don't think Japan or any country or culture for that matter is free of fault. I have any number of things I am down on Japan about, if you have an ear to hear them. However, Japan doesn't behead people anymore, and if it does start to I will call it brutality.
And while we are on the topic, I'm aware that brutality as a spectacle was widespread in "western countries" and the Crusades and Inquistion etc. were reprehensible. In terms of the sheer volume of the brutality and the spectacle of brutality (short of movies anyway), those days are largely behind us, hopefully for a long time to come (fingers crossed).
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