A lot of people left here, not because of the give and take of "attacks," but because of the rules and regulations that became and continue to be the way of the world here. Carp may be an exception, but he has also stopped facebooking, so it seems to be a general putting aside of cyber- for meat-space. As I said before, Marg (who's not on the list above, but who left because of the rules and regs) continues to be in touch with him.
My two cents about all this hoohaw: the only time I've been put off by stuff here is when I've taken myself too seriously. I'm something of a joke, and I know it--so I try to avoid doing that, but it creeps in from time to time.
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I left for about a year because life got busy ... actually never left, just didn't take the time to post anything. Curiosity about this place is hard to shake, mostly because it's been an ongoing hobby with me for about 15+ years. Clinton was president and I had a Performa then, I thought KateSorenson was a babe and watched her best Joshua Thorpe. Insults were always tossed around, friendships were made, and people always left the forum with grand dramatics. All of it made this place like super glue. I see other long absentee members show up now and then, so I suspect the same curiosity exists with them too. Some chose to become active again, other's just stop by to poop and move on. And so it goes.
A forum I like a room with lots of people. If a person enters the room, and I'd made to feel unwelcome or is constantly being being belittled, he is going to wonder why should he go in the room in the first place. So he stays out
There are 10 kinds of people. Those that understand binary and those that don't.
If a person enters the room, someone so different from the group that's been there for years and years, someone who wants to engage with people they've never met and have very little in common with and indulges us in their own obsessions, what do we do? Brenna did that and we embraced her. That was a collective response and it was entirely due to her personality and the openness that she engaged with all of us.
Others chose to make their personalities known in the Box, and we know that's where personalities clash and that's exactly why the Box was a territory created to banish those confrontations away from the Lounge. You know we've had many ugly personalities come and go in the political Box, and most have learned that if you don't have a thick skin then don't complain and don't participate. Political debate & discussion seems to have always been 75% snark. I don't remember a time when it wasn't. If a new member posting in the Box receives some serious snark and they don't respond and keep posting and don't complain-- but others do -- then seriously, the issue doesn't seem to be with the assumed 'victim'. Carp was active in the Box for a long time and I enjoyed the debates with him. He was often on the defensive about his POV and he engaged and weathered the snark and sometimes came out on top. I don't recall threads arising about how we were all so rude to him.
If the new forum member doesn't receive the welcome you think they should because of rudeness and incivility, then it's open for discussion and here we are today. We had the drama of Steve's exit, what else? (locked threads or FB )
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