The more I read, I am perplexed. I keep seeing that the protesters are claiming the are protecting their freedom and using the constitution. Tell me what freedom are they protecting? I don't see anyone taking their freedom except to pillage grass they don't own.
They keep bringing up that they have used this land since the 1870's. When the government opened up the area for homesteading, many investers went through the area buying up parcels in a checkerboard like pattern. Then turned their cattle loose. Cattle being what they are went from one parcel to the others by trespassing and grazing on the others in between.
Basically they want free grazing on land they don't own. I don't call that freedom.
If we don't count our blessings We are just wasting our time
I can hear the sequence of thoughts. The government owns the land. But the government is of the people by the people and for the people. Therefore the people own the land. And I'm a people, so I own the land. If some person or agency keeps me from enjoying the land, then, that is tyranny.
You buy that?
_________________________ MACTECHubi dolor ibi digitus
Dave's first post sums up my opinion. The legal grounding for the Fed's action is clearly grounded in both the US and Nevada constitutions, not even the ammendments, the bodies of the constitutions. I am sure no one is advocating changing the constitution are they? Cuz while we're at it...
_________________________ We are what we repeatedly do - Aristotle
Bundy Timeline Got a lot from here. He does NOT graze cows on HIS 150 acres, grows melons there…he's been using the Fed Land for the cows. I saw this kind of BS abuse under Reagan… let the private sector rape Govt. land for pennies… worst was cyanide (CN) poisoning of an area a gold mining company was using near Yellowstone Natl Park… they paid pennies for the use. Used CN to extract the gold and made NO efforts to clean it up ! I'm sure Reagan got a sizable contribution from this company - they got the gold and the taxpayers got the shaft !!
#2 I'll bet these militant bast ids were all for the Bush's Desert Storm and invading Iraq. SO if they don't like the big Fed Govt sticking their nose into their affairs - i.e. on land the Govt owns INSIDE its own borders - then how TF do they justify the Fed sticking their nose into a sovereign country's business 1/2 way around the world ?? (Iraq invasion) They're Fk-ing hypocrites !
That's what I'm seeing. Read the article and tell me how you interpret it, Dave. it IS complex.
My take on Land Use is along the same lines.
I hear the FOX Jerks like Huckabee yelping about "A Few Blades of Grass" & someone else saying; "they should be glad to have their LAWN MOWN for FREE" and other ignorant BS... ...meanwhile I'm thinking about THE DAMAGE Left Behind by Cattle... big, lumbering beasts with sharp hooves relentlessly tearing open the grassland, exposing it to the sun & ongoing drought & wind erosion then moving on doing more damage as they go.
The land needs a reasonable time to recover, lest it become barren desert...
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