Loc: Alexandria, VA
Originally Posted By: DLC
NO it could work... BUT
1. we need bullet trains 200 mph minimum.
2. ONLY stop at major cities (>400,000) ... no milk runs** !!
Planes fly at much faster than that AND they service more than major cities … 200mph is about half of what a plane can fly at the same cost ...
**[HELL one Amtrack stop is at Mineola, TX (10 miles from us) pop ~5000 !! It was lobbied by a Congressman !! It's political BS !! It's supposed to be the smallest Amtrack station (stop) in the country !!
So why would the good folk in Mineola want to pay for rail that doesn't service their community?
That'd make it more competitive with airlines…
Not even close. NY to LA would require a train running hundreds of miles per hour faster than current technology.
They tried to get a system going in Texas between DFW – Houston - and San Antonio - Austin. Was going to call it the Texas triangle. But they could never get enough right-of-ways. They need to try again... it would be VERY doable for Texas travelers. Time you get from downtown to airport + 1 hr early, your flight time, land, -get baggage etc and go from airport to downtown , you could be there as fast by train !!
Exactly -- it *might* be viable for select markets (I take the Acela all the time from DC to NYC just because of the convenience), but as a national / transcontinental system it's a loser ...
How about NYC, Pittsburg, Cleveland, Toledo, Chicago, St Louis, KS City, Denver, Las Vegas, LA ?? 10 Stops !! At 200 mph, it'd take about 16 hours... flying takes 7-8 when you add in early arrival and baggage etc + driving to downtown areas.
For that to work, rail would have to be a least half the cost. Even with the hassles of air travel, nobody is going to accept twice the travel time -- *especially* times that likely take you into another day …
I think shorter distances would be more appealing like they proposed in Texas. Boston to DC via NYC-Newark. Philadelphia, and Baltimore... travel 440 mi = 2.25 hours-- 3.5+ with stops.... flight is 1.75 hours ! That's competitive. Add 1.5 hours (45 on each end of flight and they're about even).
Agreed -- in certain markets it might make sense. As a national policy, not so much ...
Coming from areas rich in mass transit, I feel isolated without it here. And I miss regional high speed, because it used to be way less than airfare. The Acella from NYC to Providence, RI (a/b 1:15 each way) used to cost $90, in comparison to $165 via Shuttle. It was only a few years ago that K-sucks killed the proposed HSR from Cincinnati to Columbus (w/Dayton as the midpoint stop). If it were available, I'd take the choo-choo over driving or flying in the majority of cases.
Last time I went to Boston, I took the train rather than fly. From Philly the cost was just a bit less than a plane would be. But . . . I got off at South Station and walked the half block to my hotel, right next to Copley Plaza. The plane would have landed at Logan. I would have had to take the blue line in to town, change to get the Green Line, and then gotten to the same place that the train dropped me off. That would have added anywhere from a half hour to 45 minutes to my time, depending on luck, not to mention aggravation and hassle.
I love that we pride ourselves on being a federation of sovereign states--except when it comes to things like common goods, things like railroads. Then it's the whole country, and it's so much bigger than any European country, and so on. Well, shucks. PA is about half the size of GB, so why can't we build a rail system like the British one?
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