THAT was one argument for NOT going into Iraq in the first place... we're limiting our future action.. but that didn't even register with their 1 synapse !!
AND I agree about BO getting out, but then if he did immediately (back in 2009-2010) and everything collapsed - the GOTP would say HE (not GW) lost the war and then any future attack on USA would be on his head... I don't buy that BS for 1 sec , but many do !! So he made the political decision to phase out as was recommended. I don't like it, but I can't say it was an ALL bad choice. Just like with the economy collapsing in 2009... he wasn't dealt a BS hand and had few choices or options. He certainly didn't have near the choices GW did his first 4 years !! GW took his good opportunities and FOCKED them up royally !!
THAT was one argument for NOT going into Iraq in the first place... we're limiting our future action.. but that didn't even register with their 1 synapse !! <snip> He certainly didn't have near the choices GW did his first 4 years !! GW took his good opportunities and FOCKED them up royally !!
...and US in the Process!
Wot pizzes me off is that the Pin-Head gets a "BUY" ...while Obama gets the BLAME!
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Originally Posted By: yoyo52
At the time, and still, I thought that the US should make the response to 9-11 a legal, not a military one. I have no idea what would have happened if the US had taken a legal case to the ICC--maybe nothing at all (although I doubt it).
I'm not sure a legal-action-only approach would have been practical … who do you take to court, for example, and how do you get them there? And what happens if they simply refuse to attend? If they don't appear voluntarily, then you're back to military action to apprehend them anyways …
Regardless, once you do get them there and they get convicted and go to jail (or whatever), you still have the rest of the organization to deal with. Which probably leads again to having to use force at some point ...
But the precedent, that international law has some authority and that nations' behaviors is bound by law--that would have been priceless.
The problem there is that Al Quaeda isn't a nation answerable to the international community or respectful of international law -- so I'm unsure how effective making a case against them in the ICC would have been, especially in the practical sense of preventing them from conducting further attacks ...
International law applies to individuals and to groups as well as to nations. As I said, I don't know what such an approach would entail. But if it made international law more significant than it is, it would have been a good outcome.
And you're right about practicality--not in the cards.
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Those pinheads were actually real people, with a rare condition and yes, a certain level of mental deficiency. They had prominent roles in the movie Freaks. I saw it less than a year ago, so was reminded of it. Here's one scene.
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International law applies to individuals and to groups as well as to nations.
and that nations' behaviors is bound by law
Is what I was addressing.
Plus, nations that make a commitment via treaty are much more bound by international law than are individuals and groups who are relatively free to simply ignore such laws absent some kind of force to guarantee them ...
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