Bonnie and Clyde two part mini series started last night on the History channel, A&E and Lifetime all at the same time, last part tonight, not sure if I love it, it was ok and had some factual components, but it just did not have the glitz that I thought it should. all three channels will repeat the first show tonight plus the last show, 4 hours total
Watched both the Discovery Channel Doc + the series Pt1. The Doc was pretty interesting esp with Blanche's account. NOT the glamor ride that movies depict.
The 2 Pt series is kinda hogwash... Clyde never attended BP's wedding party. The story is CB met BP in Dallas trying to steal her mother's car.
Asked my mom if she ever saw B&C. She said she might have but was only 4-5 when they came by a family reunion once in NE Texas. She said my Grand-Dad ran them off. I was shocked to hear that and asked her why wasn't he killed? She said B&C were on the LAM then and wanted food- some family members gave them some and Bud (my grandfather ) told them to leave. B&C didn't shoot Bud because they respected "Family"- any one else would BE dead.
NOT proud of the relationship - kinda our families "dark history". More I read and dig into their lives - they were pretty ruthless and callous people. They got stopped the only way they could... as the Discovery Channel Doc pointed out they weren't THAT smart - the law that fought them for 2 years was just pretty dumb and ill-prepared. They'd (law) have pistols - Clyde had a military automatic BAR !! Law drove cheap cars (sometimes their own) and Clyde always stole the new V8 made by Ford.. so in a car chase is was like a VW keeping up with a Ferrari !! Oh and Bonnie was a woman hit with an ugly stick - very homely ! Clyde wasn't any Redford either !
David, you hit exactly what I've been ranting about for years. Exactly. These factionalized criminals are glammed up in the movies such that one shouldn't even consider it being anywhere near the truth .. Truth be to fact, they were nothing but thugs in most cases.
I think the newer movies have more factual events in them but still very far from the truth.
Of course I like to notice things in movies to see if they are portrayed right. As right as I can research anyway. Noticed that Clyde an Buck, last night were using the wrong kind of hoes when working in the fields. They would have been usin heavy handled and bladed cotton hoes. They wouldn't have called them "cotton" hoes, though. Also I was wondering what crop they were tending when they were there before they started to do their crime.
Thought it interesting that after they were caught and in jail on the work crews they were out doing the exact same thing they had been before they started their crimes.
They also have them too clean. Folks back then in that part of the rural area would have more dirt on them an everywhere. Bonnie looks like she is right in a highly maintained city. Check out the scene where she's a clerk at the small town diner. Remember these are very small towns from our perspective today with populations of 1000 or so with most having dirt streets in many cases and wood sidewalks in the summer with windows open so that dust permeates the inside everywhere collecting on sweaty skin.
Evidently they robbed mostly small gas stations and establishments getting just a few dollars even back then.
In this series they seem to have Bonnie goading Clyde into doing the crimes. There is that one scene where Bonnie visits the reporter to make sure she puts in the right spin in her articles. I'm really doubtful that really happened.
And, as David indicates, I don't think the real couple were all that good looking. Clyde sure wasn't.
If we don't count our blessings We are just wasting our time
How does it compare to the original movie made years ago?
You mean the one that starred Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway? I thought it was pretty good. Very glamorized. I thought it was going to be shown along w/this version as a comparison. This newer version actually mixed some "real" black & white scenes & pictures. Especially the very end. Those glamor shots of Bonnie were real. At least they looked the same as the ones shown on the Discovery Channel story. The best thing about the original movie was the very end which was done in slow motion. The ending last night was just a tad bit more gory than the original movie.
1. The shots of Bonnie and Clyde in the black and white photos were real and were staged by Bonnie and Clyde during some of their hideaways. Some of these got to the newspaper because when they got caught by surprise they left cameras behind with undeveloped film. The newspapers offered to develop the film because they knew they would sell newspapers. That's how the newspaper got a hold of some of the photos and Bonnie's poetry. I'm not sure if they had any direct contact with any reporters.
2. They did capture and hold hostage several law officers. Most they released, because they wanted their stories told.
3. It was Methvin's family who betrayed Bonnie and Clyde. His father was in on the ambush to get his son's sentence reduced to life in prison for some law offers they had killed in Grapevine Texas. It was supposedly his truck that was parked on one side of the road which forced Bonnie and Clyde into the lane closest to the ambush officers who were hiding in brush and behind trees in a wooded area.
4. The shoot out at the Red Crown motor Lodge was real as was the shoot out at the Joplin hideout (July 1933) and that was supposedly where Buck was wounded in the head. They escape but took to the woods, where a day or so later they were surrounded by law officers and Bonnie and Clyde had to abandon his brother Buck and his wife Blanche. There is a very famous photo of the law officers pulling Blanche away from Buck and she is in hysterics. Buck was taken to a hospital but died five days later.
Some of the facts that are in contention are:
1. Did the law officers shout "halt: before they opened fire. Some accounts say that when the order to "halt" was given, that was when the posse were supposed to open fire. I can't say as I blame them for not giving them any chance.
2. In the original movie, Clyde got out of his car and approached Methvin's fathers truck. According to historical accounts the officers fired on the car as it slowed down and approached Methvin's fathers truck before it was even with them in the woods. They continued fire as it passed, and went down the road 50 yards into a ditch. One of the first shots fired hit Clyde in the head and he was killed instantly. Bonnie took several shots before expiring – she had a few seconds to think about what was happening. I think the ending in the new Bonnie and Clyde movie is probably more accurate. (Clyde never left the car.)
3. There were probably a lot of holdups that Bonnie and Clyde did not perform, but it was very convenient for lots local Law officers to blame them in order to clear their records. Yes they did hold up gas stations and small grocery stores, but their main targets were banks of which they hated, and how they gain sympathy with some of the masses. Banks were the "bad guys" for the depression... same as 2008, guess we're still letting them get away with murder !
Interesting facts: 1. The largest wreaths of flowers at their funerals came from newspapers and reporters in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Why? Because during their two-year reign the Dallas newspaper sold over 1/2 million copies, far exceeding their normal subscription rate. Can you believe the # who viewed them "in state" ?
2. Bonnie and Clyde wish to be buried side by side but neither family would have it. Bonnie was buried in a small graveyard north of Love field, And Clyde Barrow is in a small cemetery right off I-30. Each of their parents blamed the other for their child's demise.
3. One of the law officers (Hinton) that was involved in the final shootout was once a customer of Bonnie Parker when she was a waitress in a local café before she met Clyde.
Lot's of interesting stuff as long as one realizes they were criminals and not glorified "Robin Hoods" as many movies depict. Mr. B is right on that one.
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