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#606699 - 11/14/13 05:56 PM Re: Question about ACA (serious ones) [Re: garyW]
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What I don't understand is even the people that
have come to realize they'd been getting screwed
by Insurance Companies for YEARS if not decades,
Don't 'GET' that since the Insurance Companies
(...who've been 'Playing Folks' ferfukkinever mad )
Are Dropping Policies In Order to Turn Nervous
Policy Owners Against The ACA (and Pres.Obama)


They'd LOVE To Get-Back-To Business As Usual!
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#606702 - 11/14/13 07:17 PM Re: Question about ACA (serious ones) [Re: Celandine]
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And that is the obvious strategy of the GOP to convince people the longtime woes and outrages costs of health insurance policies as a new result of the ACA, rather than the reality that the ACA is fixing all that. Worked for them convinicing people that Obama crashed the economy and job numbers were rosey on Jan 20, 2009.
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#606703 - 11/14/13 08:04 PM Re: Question about ACA (serious ones) [Re: garyW]
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And there you have it. Reasonable, methinks. But the right will still kvetch ad nauseum.
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#606705 - 11/14/13 08:12 PM Re: Question about ACA (serious ones) [Re: steveg]
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Yes, FoxNews and the GOP will quickly blackpedal on their position because Obama did exactly what they were demanding he do yesterday.
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#606706 - 11/14/13 08:19 PM Re: Question about ACA (serious ones) [Re: garyW]
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Damn straight. He should've repealed the fukker on the spot! eek
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#606753 - 11/15/13 03:34 PM Re: Question about ACA (serious ones) [Re: steveg]
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Why wasn't this a lead story?*

http://www.examiner.com/article/right-wing-cyber-attacks-on-healthcare-gov-website-confirmed


* because the media couldn't blame the President for it.
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#606755 - 11/15/13 04:53 PM Re: Question about ACA (serious ones) [Re: garyW]
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Amazing. If you Google cyber attack on healthcare.gov you get a slew of 2-day old links — many to major network news outlets. But I don't see word one on msnbc.com — and you'd expect them to be on it like a cheap suit! confused
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#606769 - 11/15/13 06:57 PM Re: Question about ACA (serious ones) [Re: steveg]
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That was fun. I read the first result. Obviously not written by a Republican sympasizing agency:

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The troubled Affordable Care Act website has been subject to "a handful" of hacking attempts, including at least one intended to bring the site down, a Department of Homeland Security official told lawmakers today.

But considering that some federal websites get hundreds of cyber-assaults each day, the approximately 16 reported attacks on healthcare.gov is a surprisingly small number, experts said.

Assistant Secretary Roberta Stempfley told members of the House Homeland Security Committee that her agency had received "about 16 reports" from the Department of Health and Human Services that are under investigation.

While the number of hacking attempts for such a "high profile target" may seem low, Robert Siciliano, a McAfee online security expert, told ABCNews.com that it's likely the agency is reporting only "brute force attacks."

"Little tiny ones that happen on a daily basis, like attempting to crack passwords, they may see them but they add up to nothing. They're probably reporting significant brute force attacks that could put data at risk," Siciliano said.

In comparison, the Department of Homeland Security website logged about "228,700 cyber incidents" during the last fiscal year, a DHS official told ABCNews.com, which averages out to about 626 a day "involving federal agencies, critical infrastructure, and the Department's industry partners."

The fact there was only 16 is surprising. Maybe those 16 are the documented ones," he said of healthcare.gov. "Due to the fact there are consumers punching in personal identifying info, that makes it a very attractive target."


ref link
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#606777 - 11/15/13 07:51 PM Re: Question about ACA (serious ones) [Re: garyW]
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Nice to know that throughout "ALL THIS"
He Hasn't Lost His Sense-Of-Humor
He said, during his "APOLOGY TOUR", that
He can't wait until it's running smoothly
so they can stop calling it "OBAMA CARE"!
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#606789 - 11/15/13 09:03 PM Re: Question about ACA (serious ones) [Re: steveg]
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Originally Posted By: steveg
And there you have it. Reasonable, methinks. But the right will still kvetch ad nauseum.


What Obama said yesterday about the "fix", quote:
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We’re also requiring insurers to extend current plans to inform their customers about two things: One, that protections — what protections these renewed plans don’t include. Number two, that the marketplace offers new options with better coverage and tax credits that might help you bring down the cost.

I think the President just drank the Insurance corporation's milkshake. Insurers must inform cancelled enrollees about their junk plans, ACA's benefits, the marketplace, tax subsidies. Game Changer. That's why today's bs House vote to convolute this to the Insurance corporations benefit deserves a veto if it gets to his desk.


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