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#606548 - 11/11/13 09:38 PM Re: First Mavericks problem [Re: yoyo52]
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Gee--I don't know what's up with this machine. I can't get it to boot into 9. I'll have to try 8.4.
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#606629 - 11/13/13 04:24 PM Re: First Mavericks problem [Re: yoyo52]
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Try repairing permissions before installing Mac OS 8.4, then rebuild the desktop. And don't forget to startup with extensions off.
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#606637 - 11/13/13 05:29 PM Re: First Mavericks problem [Re: MacGizmo]
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And don't forget fsck-y! eek
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#606638 - 11/13/13 06:36 PM Re: First Mavericks problem [Re: yoyo52]
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Originally Posted By: yoyo52
I spoke too soon. Neither the monitor sleep nor the system sleep work from the Energy Saver CP. It's not so bad with the laptops since I just close them and that's good enough. But with the desktop I've had to put the computer to sleep physically. Oh, and the screen saver also won't come on automatically from the Screen Saver CP. I've got to go to the hot corner to start that up. It all worked fine before 10.9, naturally.

Oh, and while I'm kevetching, I've noticed that after the last Mail.app update Mail chokes when I select several emails to delete at the same time. The spinning wheel starts up, and although eventually it clears up, it seems to take forever.
Get Onyx. I don't care what Giz says BTW, Repairing Permissions is not just a placebo. I have used it to fix things for some customers.

http://www.titanium.free.fr/downloadonyx.php

I would checkmark everything under the Automation tab. Rebuilding the Mail mailbox indexes may cure the Mail problem.

It will take a while to run everything, but I believe that your laptop has the SSD so it won't be too bad.
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#606640 - 11/13/13 06:52 PM Re: First Mavericks problem [Re: Reboot]
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I've always wondered what, exactly, repairing permissions does. Is it like looking for teeny-weeny people inside the TV? Is is like, the computer says, "NO YOU MAY NOT!!! Well, alright, just this once…" confused

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#606644 - 11/13/13 07:54 PM Re: First Mavericks problem [Re: steveg]
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I've done the permissions shtick a couple of times already--no joy, unfortunately. I haven't run Onyx in a while, so I'll try that, as well as rebuilding the mailboxes.
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#606648 - 11/13/13 10:13 PM Re: First Mavericks problem [Re: yoyo52]
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Onyx will rebuild the mailboxes too.
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#606651 - 11/13/13 11:01 PM Re: First Mavericks problem [Re: Reboot]
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Jim, I've never said repairing permissions is Placebo in general… only for the particular things you keep saying it will fix.

I find it particularly amusing when people repair permissions hoping to fix a problem with software that isn't from Apple or installed with the official Apple installer – since those are the only types of files repairing permissions will work on.
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#606652 - 11/13/13 11:39 PM Re: First Mavericks problem [Re: MacGizmo]
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I find it particularly amusing when people repair permissions hoping to fix a problem with software that isn't from Apple or installed with the official Apple installer – since those are the only types of files repairing permissions will work on.
Right, if they were installed with the official Apple installer it will leave a BOM in the Receipt.

"Many things you install in Mac OS X are installed from package files (whose filename extension is ".pkg"). Each time something is installed from a package file, a "Bill of Materials" file (whose filename extension is ".bom") is stored in the package's receipt file, which is kept in /Library/Receipts/ . If you look in the Receipts folder, for example, you should see all kinds of files that end with .pkg, including some that were created when Mac OS X was installed (for example, BaseSystem.pkg).
"Each of those '.bom' files contains a list of the files installed by that package, and the proper permissions for each file.


Source credit.

Also a bad installer can bork Apple's permissions.
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#606653 - 11/13/13 11:42 PM Re: First Mavericks problem [Re: Reboot]
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And here's how to fix ACLs in your home folder, Disk Utility doesn't do that.
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