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#602645 - 09/17/13 02:32 PM Re: Red Line...I didn't say that..the world did.... [Re: lanovami]
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Hey, I was the random wingnut--not intending to be a sockpuppet, but just imagining what a random wingnut would say. It's so difficult to write faction!
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#602646 - 09/17/13 02:41 PM Re: Red Line...I didn't say that..the world did.... [Re: yoyo52]
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okay, that's a relief. But the only research needed for "imagining what a random wingnut would say" can be found by using the Google to search "President Barack Obama".
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#602664 - 09/17/13 08:57 PM Re: Red Line...I didn't say that..the world did.... [Re: yoyo52]
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That possibility also occurred to me. Good copy yoyo. Really nowhere out of the realm of imagination.

Just the other day my dad (always trying to goad me) sent me a picture of a "protester" somewhere holding a placard reading "Waterboard Obama - find out what he knows" Not being one to back down from a fight I responded with "As Cheney and his lap dog discovered, you can solve all your problems with waterboarding"
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#602665 - 09/17/13 09:24 PM Re: Red Line...I didn't say that..the world did.... [Re: garyW]
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I just can't get away from the notion that
Pres. Obama used a bit of slight of hand
(reverse psychology) to get what he wanted
and did such a great job at it that Gopppers
doano whether to spit of wind their watches.

KNOWING full well no matter WHAT HE DID
they would reflexively demand the opposite,
if he DIDN'T want to bomb Syria, the only
thing he had to do was to claim that he did.

On one hand Goppers are calling him a wimp,
while on the other calling him Pres. Obomber

AFAIC it was a brilliant move and achieved
the best possibly outcome without lifting a
finger. laugh Br'er Rabbit done OUT-FOXed 'em.
meanwhile him n' Br'er Joe are

Br'er Rabbit n' da' Briar Patch
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#602667 - 09/17/13 09:36 PM Re: Red Line...I didn't say that..the world did.... [Re: Celandine]
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Syria and Putin agreed to everything that Obama demanded because it was backed up by a show of force, they agree on an immediate timetable to destroy chemical weapons stockpiles … and the media is still reporting that this was an Obama failure and epic foreign policy incompetency. And like I said in an earlier post, the Bush Doctrine is dead and the GOP are now on-the-record peaceniks. Gotta love it. What's the downside??, …. Obama is sure to lose his reelection bid in 2016 laugh
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#602669 - 09/17/13 09:43 PM Re: Red Line...I didn't say that..the world did.... [Re: garyW]
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either/or
the outcome is the same
hopefully Russia is an honest broker
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#602670 - 09/17/13 09:48 PM Re: Red Line...I didn't say that..the world did.... [Re: Celandine]
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Usually I'd laugh at the idea that Russia--or any nation, really, but especially Russia--could be an honest broker. But there's a remarkable bit of data that makes me hopeful. Apparently, in the discussion with the State Dept., the Russians presented an accounting of what their intelligence says about Syrian chemical weapons that is almost identical to what US intelligence says. They're not hiding anything, in other words.

To be sure, I guess you could say that the Russkies have a mole in the CIA, who told them what the CIA data shows, and then they doctored their own assessment to dovetail with that the mole told them about the CIA material.

I think I've been watching MI-5 a bit too much. smile
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#602671 - 09/17/13 09:56 PM Re: Red Line...I didn't say that..the world did.... [Re: yoyo52]
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Ha!
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