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#602354 - 09/12/13 06:12 PM Re: Chemical weapons to International Group [Re: NucleusG4]
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Whoops... I admit I might be a bit slow with that... !

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#602356 - 09/12/13 07:30 PM Re: Chemical weapons to International Group [Re: DLC]
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"Regardless IF Assad turns them over to anyone, Russia, UN, any other international group for destruction..."---

They are shipping them out of the country!

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#602357 - 09/12/13 07:47 PM Re: Chemical weapons to International Group [Re: Mike]
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Originally Posted By: Mike
"Regardless IF Assad turns them over to anyone, Russia, UN, any other international group for destruction..."---

They are shipping them out of the country!


One option is their destruction in Syria but with UN & Russian oversight... not sure what the logistics are.

. . . another option is to return them to Russia and request a refund !! whistle

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#602358 - 09/12/13 07:59 PM Re: Chemical weapons to International Group [Re: DLC]
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another option is to return them to Russia...
Nah, I mean since the Blair government supplied them they ought really to be returned to us.

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#602359 - 09/12/13 08:10 PM Re: Chemical weapons to International Group [Re: keymaker]
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Will the UK give a refund ? I mean of course minus the usual 10% restocking fee ! wink

amazing the countries (US & UK) most appalled by the use of chemical weapons were at one time suppliers ! How'd that happen?? whistle

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#602361 - 09/12/13 08:27 PM Re: Chemical weapons to International Group [Re: DLC]
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Will the UK give a refund ? I mean of course minus the usual 10% restocking fee !
Not really, we're a bit hard at the moment... so we might want more than 10 per cent. How'd it happen? Well, our excuse is that certain people making the decisions were mentally ill at the time although it was only proven against one of 'em... you and I have discussed that one before of course... laugh

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#602365 - 09/12/13 09:02 PM Re: Chemical weapons to International Group [Re: keymaker]
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Of course this all would not have happened without pressure from the US. Why would there be any reason to agree to such a thing as handing over chemical weapons if nobody was going to do anything to try and stop it? I say again, I should've have had more faith in Obama's approach, and more faith in Putin and Russia now that I think of it.
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#602366 - 09/12/13 09:04 PM Re: Chemical weapons to International Group [Re: keymaker]
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"Yeah I mean we need everyone on board the Chemical Weapons Convention if possible... hopefully non-member states or entities still struggling with the moral case for membership such as North Korea and Israel will follow Syria's lead."

Agreed, and these countries aren't that much further from the brink of international war than Syria. NK was just doing some more serious sabre rattling that usual just a few months ago.
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#602371 - 09/12/13 09:40 PM Re: Chemical weapons to International Group [Re: lanovami]
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Everything Putin stated about the consequences of military conflict was already included in Obamas last few speeches. That's why Obama's very first speech on Syria emphasized that diplomacy and disarming was the goal. But when Putin says it today in the NYT, Putin is now the Obama-haters hero and Obama is the ignorant and naive oppressive tyrant …. even when Putin gives us his best macho bare-chested walrus-hugging KGB propogandist attitude with these last words in his op ed, Convservatives are praising the guy that's telling us our highly-valued patriotic & GOP/Reganesque motto of American Exceptionalism sucks.

Yes, now that Obama embraces & emphasizes American Exceptionism …. now the conservatives are against it because Putin's overblown ego rubbed it in Obama's face. Good luck with that.

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My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.


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#602373 - 09/12/13 09:45 PM Re: Chemical weapons to International Group [Re: garyW]
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Hey, I am not sure if having your average member of the Ignoramanati praising Putin is such a bad thing.
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