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#601936 - 09/05/13 03:00 PM Who are we backing?
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In Syria. Here's a link to a video from the NY Times. It's stomach-turning, so be warned.

Times video
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#601942 - 09/05/13 05:30 PM Re: Who are we backing? [Re: yoyo52]
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This is one of the most profound conundrums we face: that both sides are capable of atrocities and barbarism. We really don't know who the good guys are — if there are any. I believe it's really the Iran situation, much more so than the events in Syria, that are behind the Administration's "send a message" position. I guess the choice is step in quicksand or step in deep sh¡t.
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#601943 - 09/05/13 06:23 PM Re: Who are we backing? [Re: yoyo52]
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Because there are no good guys in white hats.. so that's another reason to WALK AWAY !!
Most of the Syrians (Govt and rebel factions ) would just soon kill us anyway !
Look at the gratitude we got from the Iraqis (course W F-ed that one up big time). crazy
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#602145 - 09/09/13 05:32 PM Re: Who are we backing? [Re: DLC]
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Exactly Dave, we need to stay out.

If we do bomb, what happens if (and more than likely we will) we kill women/children? Bombs don't care who you are.

I don't care if Obama said a red line, just let the arab league take care of their own.

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#602148 - 09/09/13 05:38 PM Re: Who are we backing? [Re: John Rougeux]
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Originally Posted By: John Rougeux
Exactly Dave, we need to stay out.

If we do bomb, what happens if (and more than likely we will) we kill women/children? Bombs don't care who you are.

I don't care if Obama said a red line, just let the arab league take care of their own.

Exactly John ! Notice how fast they're running to make the situation better ?? whistle

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#602150 - 09/09/13 05:40 PM Re: Who are we backing? [Re: DLC]
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It's a crazy world when the Russian leader has wiser words than our own president.

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#602153 - 09/09/13 07:13 PM Re: Who are we backing? [Re: John Rougeux]
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Yeah, some things are beyond political stripe (though Iraq wasn't for some reason). Way too much chance of doing more harm than good in Syria and abroad in the short and long term.
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#602163 - 09/09/13 09:25 PM Re: Who are we backing? [Re: yoyo52]
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Registered: 01/18/04
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Loc: SopranoLand

It's another internal religious war, not a political one, with
very little to no understanding of even the basic difference
between a Sunni & Shiite, good luck dubbing ANYONE right
or wrong, good or bad.

Of course other countries in the region (even Al-Qaeda)
are jumping into it.. they all have a stake in the game,
WE'RE the Outsiders there, and you guessed it! No matter
what we do, WE'RE going to come-across as "THE Enemy".

I understand why Obama HOPES to stop the use of
chemical weapons ASAP... and perhaps offer what non-
military aid we can until they sort it out forthemselves,
but IMHO there's about as much chance of that as the
Irish Catholics and English Protestants ever seeing
eye-to-eye, other than the temporary truce they forged
on the decision to join together to fight the Muslims
following the 9/11 catastrophe.

That Said, ...Becoming "THE ENEMY" that UNITES THEM
just doesn't sound all that appealing, at least AFAIC! blush
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#602186 - 09/10/13 10:38 AM Re: Who are we backing? [Re: Celandine]
musicalmarv7 Offline
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Registered: 03/14/10
Posts: 2850
Loc: Philippines
Enough is Enough with these dam wars already.

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#602194 - 09/10/13 01:54 PM Re: Who are we backing? [Re: DLC]
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Exactly. Also, if we do send in missiles, the conflict then becomes "our" mess. The word will beon our butts

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