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#598253 - 07/12/13 04:33 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: MrB]
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I think he'll walk on the Murder 2 charge. The worst Zimmerman gets is Manslaughter if he doesn't walk completely.

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#598254 - 07/12/13 04:35 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: MrB]
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Yep I agree - I think he's guilty of 2nd Degree M, but they won't convict him of that and settle for manslaughter. I'd be shocked (and grossly disappointed) if he got completely off. Furthermore the Stand you ground could have easily worked for Martin as Zimmerman, after all WHO had the gun ? Travon had what? candy and a drink ! WOOOO , sooo threatening !! wink
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#598260 - 07/12/13 05:21 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: DLC]
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Travon had what?


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#598267 - 07/12/13 07:44 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: garyW]
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I know the stand your ground idiocy wasn't part of the defense in the trial--but I have a question that has puzzled me all along. Wouldn't one say that Trayvon himself had the right to stand his ground, so that if he felt threatened by the creepy guy following him, he had every right to defend himself as violently as he thought necessary? If he had had a gun, wouldn't the stand your ground law have allowed him to blow Zimmerman away because Zimmerman was threatening him?
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#598270 - 07/12/13 08:33 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: yoyo52]
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I think that's the biggest flaw with the "Stand your Ground" law when it applies anywhere- anyplace ... if it were limited to your home, there'd be no question who had the right !! In this case, EITHER could use it !! DUH !!! Stupid legislators !! crazy
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#598272 - 07/12/13 08:40 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: yoyo52]
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Originally Posted By: yoyo52
I know the stand your ground idiocy wasn't part of the defense in the trial--but I have a question that has puzzled me all along. Wouldn't one say that Trayvon himself had the right to stand his ground, so that if he felt threatened by the creepy guy following him, he had every right to defend himself as violently as he thought necessary? If he had had a gun, wouldn't the stand your ground law have allowed him to blow Zimmerman away because Zimmerman was threatening him?


Why? Because he's a young black male.

The Defense's final statement told us that regardless of GZ's concealed gun, Trayvon brandished a bigger, a deadlier weapon. The sidewalk. <dramatic chunk of concrete in tow>.

This was O'Mara's most dickish move ever.
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#598275 - 07/12/13 08:59 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: garyW]
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Yes gary, but here's the real question !!

Did he have a legal permit to carry concealed concrete !! whistle
Betcha didn't think of that !! laugh
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#598277 - 07/12/13 09:41 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: MrB]
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Not guilty.

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#598278 - 07/12/13 09:54 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: Leslie]
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I haven't followed the court shenanigans at all, but from what I read in the newspaper, I have to agree with Leslie. Enough shadows of doubts to make it not guilty.
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#598280 - 07/12/13 10:34 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: DLC]
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Originally Posted By: DLC
Yes gary, but here's the real question !!

Did he have a legal permit to carry concealed concrete !! whistle
Betcha didn't think of that !! laugh




Ah, but Trayvon didn't have to have a permit for the concrete as he baited Jorge into an area where he had his concrete weapon stashed. shocked

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