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#598415 - 07/13/13 11:39 PM Re: Great Bill Maher "New Rule" [Re: Celandine]
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Originally Posted By: Celandine
You seem to be overlooking the fact that unemployment
in this "economic down-turn" is not restricted to The US.

Well, the question is wether illegal workers take jobs away from American citizens, so naturally I'm restricting my discussion to that ...

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#598416 - 07/14/13 12:06 AM Re: Great Bill Maher "New Rule" [Re: AusMac]
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Overall figures do not necessarily affect the individual. Unless of course they become legal.

Then there is such as this.. An anecdotal case where farmers were overheard talking about how immigration had busted an onion harvest with helicopters and road vehicles converging on the spot..
"who is going to pick the onions unless they are illegals?"
"mechanical harvesting is not viable?"
"no way. It all has to be done by hand."

This is in a land where all illegals have to risk drowning in a leaky boat to get here.


Right, so there's a problem that needs solving. Seems to me there are three options:

A) Seal the border; forcibly deport illegal workers.

B) Do nothing.

C) Seal the border; legalize illegal workers already here.

Obviously those are vastly simplified, but are the gists ;-)

A) Doesn't seem practical without becoming even more of a police state than we already are ...

B) Doesn't really solve anything, but is what government naturally wants to do ...

C) Seems the only option as at least US natives and newly-legal immigrants can compete on a level playing field, as opposed to employers being able to undercut the natives by exploiting a vulnerable immigrant resource ...

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#598417 - 07/14/13 12:42 AM Re: Great Bill Maher "New Rule" [Re: six_of_one]
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[quote]as opposed to employers being able to undercut the natives by exploiting a vulnerable immigrant resource{/quote]

Ding-ding-ding! Give the man a cigar!

Crack down on the employers who hire these people at pennies on the dollar, pay them cash under the table and, thus avoid all those nasty federal and state taxes.

Why do you think that immigration "reform" is going absolutely no where? Big Bidness owns Congress!
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#598426 - 07/14/13 03:42 AM Re: Great Bill Maher "New Rule" [Re: MacBozo]
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[quote]as opposed to employers being able to undercut the natives by exploiting a vulnerable immigrant resource{/quote]

Ding-ding-ding! Give the man a cigar!

Crack down on the employers who hire these people at pennies on the dollar, pay them cash under the table and, thus avoid all those nasty federal and state taxes...

Why do you think that immigration "reform" is going absolutely no where? Big Bidness owns Congress!


Ding-ding-ding! Give the man a cigar!

EXACTLY !! That's what Germany does- the "wall" is at the employers office NOT the border... and you can't tunnel under it nor scale over it !! ...or hide 20 immigrants in your briefcase as you enter the plant !! wink

As Bill called this "Border Surge", it's a "War-hey on Jorge "! (after the GOPs "War on Drugs", War on Terror" etc)
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#598453 - 07/14/13 03:29 PM Re: Great Bill Maher "New Rule" [Re: DLC]
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Anyway, it is the problem for the USA. It isn't mine.
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