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#598168 - 07/12/13 04:59 AM Pre verdict Zimmerman case
MrB Offline
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So weigh in on the verdict of the Zimmerman case.

Me?

I say it will be Guilty of Man Slaughter

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#598174 - 07/12/13 06:29 AM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: MrB]
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Registered: 01/18/04
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Loc: SopranoLand

Murder.

He was staking that kid
he got his arse "grounded & pounded"

Since when is it not fair to fight back
when you find yourself in a perceived-threatening
situation (being followed by some ((nut?)) in a
vehicle for who knows what purpose --- apparently
to the kids mind --- just for walking while black
anywhere south of the Mason/Dixon Line)

He tried to evade the "stalker" the guy left his
vehicle to pursue him on foot... no doubt the
guy was armed... but again... to what purpose...?

I have no doubt that the kid did what he could
under the circumstances... he got the jump on him.


Not saying he should get the death sentence...
...just saying HE'S GUILTY AS A FUK! mad
otherwise it's a travesty of justice when an armed
man can take it upon himself to initiate an
incident by setting himself up as a judge, jury,
and potentially, executioner without consequence.

"GUN-BRAVE" mad

sorry... I get infuriated with chicken-crap guyse
sticking a gun down their pants ...going off to
make themselves feel like a man.

sorry... you asked for my opinion YOU GOT IT!
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#598179 - 07/12/13 06:54 AM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: Celandine]
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So you think the jury will come with guilty of second degree murder.

Okay.

I am asking what folks will think the jury will come with

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#598182 - 07/12/13 09:41 AM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: MrB]
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I'd be surprised if he got off completely. If he did, it could set a precedent for the stand your guard defense - it already is I've heard.
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#598188 - 07/12/13 09:52 AM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: lanovami]
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Originally Posted By: lanovami
I'd be surprised if he got off completely. If he did, it could set a precedent for the stand your guard defense - it already is I've heard.


But he's using "self defense" not stand your ground as his justification. The media got so hung up on stand your ground.

As for the result:
- 2nd Degree Murder - not guilty
- mans laughter - hung
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#598190 - 07/12/13 10:49 AM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: MrB]
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I say innocent period. Martin I think was so full of pot he just provoked Zimmerman to the final straw to shoot him.Martin I think did knock Zimmerman head to the ground and than it got really bad from there where Zimmerman held his ground by shooting Martin to protect himself.

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#598197 - 07/12/13 12:30 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: musicalmarv7]
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Branching off from my own op a bit: I thought the prosecution approached their case from the defensive. Trying to find doubt in the defense's case. I thought that was odd. As several analysts were stating, the prosecution didnt push what they wanted the jury to believe.

To them it was " the defense would have you believe......."

I thought it was the defense that was suppose to do that on the prosecutions case.

So for that reason and others, I don't think the jury will come with Guilty of sec deg murder. But , they just might think that they have to get him for something to appease the masses so will come with manslaughter.

Dave


Edited by MrB (07/12/13 12:32 PM)
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#598200 - 07/12/13 12:45 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: MrB]
Celandine Offline
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Registered: 01/18/04
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Loc: SopranoLand

Yup...yup & yup...

The pros attorney will get the blame for the
A-Hole getting off with a slap on the wrist.

what I said above was my opinion on the incident
my opinion on the verdict is a whole 'nother matter.
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#598219 - 07/12/13 02:29 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: MrB]
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I think he's guilty and should get convicted …. but the prosecution has left too much uncertainty and he may walk….

but now I find out (via Drudge headline yesterday) that Obama has put pressure on the Judge so he's sure to get convicted. <bleh!>
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#598222 - 07/12/13 02:40 PM Re: Pre verdict Zimmerman case [Re: MrB]
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Registered: 04/19/02
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Loc: D'OHio
I think it's gonna be manslaughter. Murder 2 was hard enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, and I think the prosecution missed opportunities (although they still have the rebuttal coming up). But I don't think the jury can or will ignore that Zimmerman's assumptions — and actions upon them — were catalytic. I just don't see how they let him walk.

That, and Drudge's inside info that Obama is up the judge's ass and has had the NSA implant subliminal commands in the juror's heads. crazy
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