six_of_one
Pool Bar
Registered: 04/19/02
Posts: 4090
Loc: Alexandria, VA
Originally Posted By: garyW
Originally Posted By: steveg
Yup. When I switch, I plan to keep CS6 on the bootable system clone on my external HD — just in case.
My understanding is that InDesign CS6 will not open inDesign CC files unless they're saved as InDesign Markup (IDML).
Tried opening a CC document in CS6:
So yes, IDML ...
Or change your workflow to include saving an archive version of all your CC projects to an earlier version. Of course, that might get rid of whatever CC-specific stuff you may have used in the document, which kind of makes using the CC version moot in the first place ...
I can't see where this won't become a huge issue for Adobe -- at some point I wager they'll have to come up with a solution for opening/saving documents orphaned by an expired subscription ...
The Moto is 2.4 GHz, not enough signal strength to punch through the ceiling and walls between my office and my daughter's room. The Belkin has 2.4 and 5GHz. So it's back on line. Oh well...
Dammit! I swear... I was just coming in here to say I would wait a few days before taking your proclamations under consideration.... Too bad it didn't work.
Jim_ Number 9
Registered: 04/21/02
Posts: 12529
Loc: Columbus OH
Originally Posted By: garyW
Here's what got me - if you stop your subscription you will never be able to open your files without paying the minimum monthly charge to make the app available to you.
I don't know if my own reasoning makes sense in terms of how the technology changes. I was asked a few weeks ago if I could supply some PDF spreads of a book project from 2000. It was created in Quark …. I can't open it, Quark was made for Classic OS, the files are dead to me. And I can see this happening with my body of work produced in ID. Everything is saved to PDF now for proofing and review, but if source files are unavailable I'm stuck. At least now I'll have a DVD install of CS6 but who knows if that'll run in 5 years or so. Seems optical drives are dinosaurs, yet my entire design career is archived on DVDs.
garyW
mid-century modern
Registered: 04/19/02
Posts: 7406
Oh yeah, ID CS4 can "open" an older Quark doc …. but what appears is totally unusable, unrecognizable as the original file except for a photo or two surrounded by scambled text. ID is laughing at Quark style sheets, flowing random text into the ether and taunting me, asking me who's my daddy.
garyW
mid-century modern
Registered: 04/19/02
Posts: 7406
no. $200 just to see if it actually works? Files from 10-18 years are never really needed, it's just weird to think of all the graphic design jobs created over such a long period (pre-CS) that I hang onto … if a job from wayback-when needs to reprint I would just let my print shop's prepress dept deal with it
Just thought I’d pop in. I have a bit of spare time on a lazy-ish Friday afternoon so I thought I’d look up some old haunts.

The day Adobe’s creative cloud went live I signed up… crazy as that sounds. That was pretty much the top of the week.The special discount rates for the first year sounded good to me. Though I’ve messed with Premiere and Flash in the past, the heavy lifters for me are Photoshop, Lightroom, Illustrator and, to a lesser extent lately, InDesign. So, really, on a daily basis all I’m using is three apps from the suite - but they are very much my bread and butter.
The ability to run all of the latest apps is very appealing to me. Photoshop CC in particular launches very quickly. None of them feel like slouches and the interface is evolving nicely - flatter, leaner.
I realize that, having stepped in this direction, there’s likely no going back. Adobe has bet the farm that subscription-based design software is the way to go and I don’t see them backing down. They expect the wave of dissidents to dwindle to a trickle. I think they’ve made a sound bet.
If I’m having a good year in the business, then six bills a year is a price I’m willing to pay to have year-round access to the full slate of Adobe’s latest and greatest tools. Plus I just dig the workflow and smooth interoperability. Hey, if there was a solid competing suite that was cheaper and was as slick, I’d be all over it. The production bureaus I deal with would have to be good with those tools, mind you.
Meantime I’m enjoying Illustrator 17 (!) and the other goodies.
an older Quark doc …. but what appears is totally unusable, unrecognizable as the original file except for a photo or two surrounded by scambled text. ID is laughing at Quark style sheets, flowing random text into the ether and taunting me, asking me who's my daddy.
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