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#593812 - 04/24/13 11:35 PM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: steveg]
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I remember a friend of mine who was an officer in the Dictionary Society told me that the Society had filed an amicus brief in a constitutional law case, urging the SCOTUS to read a phrase in the Constitution in light of the definition of the term in the 18th century. Apparently that strict constructionist, Scalia, just laughed at the brief. I don't recall what the case was--sorry!
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#593826 - 04/25/13 02:27 AM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: six_of_one]
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Yes like I mentioned WMD use explosives as a dispersant , theres the confusion. Does not include bombs, IED's which under 921 would be defined as a destructive device 4 - A,i

WMD is often referred to by the collection of modalities that make up the set of weapons: chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, and explosive

I guess they listed explosive this way is because not all chemical and bio WMDs need to use an explosive device . Some can be just added to the water supply or food supply or just in the air . So to cover all WMDs with or without, the word explosive was added as use of an dispersant.

IMO.
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#593840 - 04/25/13 09:56 AM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: yoyo52]
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S'ok. I doubt Scalia remembers either. wink
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#593851 - 04/25/13 04:50 PM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: carp]
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Originally Posted By: carp
Does not include bombs, IED's which under 921 would be defined as a destructive device 4 - A,i

Er ... the law the FBI is referencing explicitly includes everything under section 921:

"Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) are defined in US law (18 USC §2332a) as:

(A) any destructive device as defined in section 921 of this title (i.e. explosive device);"

Kind of hard to read that any other way ...

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I guess they listed explosive this way is because not all chemical and bio WMDs need to use an explosive device.

Well, that, and a big enough explosion just by itself can cause massive damage (see: fertilizer plant, Texas).

The basic problem here is what exactly defines the "Mass Destruction" part of WMD ...

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#593853 - 04/25/13 05:33 PM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: six_of_one]
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... what exactly defines the "Mass Destruction" part of WMD ...
The geography. If this had happened in, say, Atlantic City, it would've been "Jersey Destruction." <--- Get it now? blush
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#593858 - 04/25/13 06:52 PM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: steveg]
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#593874 - 04/26/13 06:34 AM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: yoyo52]
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"I remember a friend of mine who was an officer in the Dictionary Society told me that the Society had filed an amicus brief in a constitutional law case, urging the SCOTUS to read a phrase in the Constitution in light of the definition of the term in the 18th century. Apparently that strict constructionist, Scalia, just laughed at the brief. I don't recall what the case was--sorry!"

Man, Yoyo, that sounds like something I want to read more about. If it comes to you, or you think of a good way of searching for this, let me know.
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#593878 - 04/26/13 01:29 PM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: lanovami]
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I'll see if I can remember or get more info.
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