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#593695 - 04/23/13 04:02 PM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: steveg]
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Originally Posted By: steveg
It appears that the definition varies or is interpreted differently between different LE agencies and the military. RM had an interesting segment on it last night.


I was able to just now watch that. All I can say is great minds think alike ;-)

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#593703 - 04/23/13 06:33 PM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: yoyo52]
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The Murrah Bld bombing I think was a WMD based on it's sheer size of the explosion. This one is a lot less and therefore questionable. read, . . a big stretch ! crazy
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#593710 - 04/23/13 08:10 PM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: six_of_one]
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Originally Posted By: six_of_one
Originally Posted By: Celandine
Originally Posted By: yoyo52
It's a hard thing to define, this WMD. Was the Murrah Building explosive a WMD? It was certainly a powerful explosion, but even so it wasn't in the same category as the things you named--a nuke or a biological agent. It's a very slippery slope.

OK,
While we're still jumping thru hoops and
doing back bends trying to make
various definitions fit...

What about Jumbo Jets? smirk


From the FBI definition posted earlier:

"The term “destructive device” shall not include any device which is neither designed nor redesigned for use as a weapon ..."

So I gather a Jumbo Jet would not qualify ...

...well,
given the extent of the damage leveled upon
multiple countries, casualties & treasure...

OK, I'll give you that one.

Now, What about Pressure Cookers?
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#593726 - 04/24/13 01:43 AM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: Celandine]
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Well W himself was a Weapon of Ass Destruction ! WAD for short !! whistle
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#593733 - 04/24/13 02:20 AM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: six_of_one]
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IMO,

The dictionary is clear - does NOT include explosives.

Where the confusion comes in - is explosive devices - here it is, chemical, bio and nukes are explosive devices. And so is bombs.

Maybe the (key word) here is "wide spread"
You maybe able to blow up a whole building or a city block - but not the whole city like a nuke would.

The clarity would be is to place a human figure on it like say if over 5,000 people are killed than its a WMD ? ?
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#593740 - 04/24/13 03:13 AM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: carp]
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The dictionary is clear - does NOT include explosives.

Unfortunately, the dictionary doesn't determine law. As we've seen by the links in this thread, the law applicable to the FBI is different than the one applying to the DoD, with definitions varying accordingly ...

Alas, there doesn't seem to be a universal definition, at least as far as law is concerned, which is the problem ...

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#593749 - 04/24/13 04:16 AM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: six_of_one]
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It determines the definition of law. As derived by words.
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#593755 - 04/24/13 05:16 AM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: carp]
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Originally Posted By: carp
It determines the definition of law. As derived by words.


How's that argument holding up with the 2nd Ammendment these days?
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#593756 - 04/24/13 05:37 AM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: carp]
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It determines the definition of law. As derived by words.

Demonstrably untrue. Check the links in this thread to actual law.

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#593772 - 04/24/13 10:48 AM Re: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" [Re: carp]
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So then it's Judge Miriam Webster? Good luck with that.
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