War is over, if you want it, war is over now. But not enough people want it badly enough. Okay so John was pretty cool too.

Hmmm... not sure who was cooler... just needed to reference Lennons' peaceful outlook.

"just needed to reference Lennons' peaceful outlook."

Indeed. I wish the world he had envisaged was anywhere near what he dreamed.

If this were all to take place. Sooner before later, some guy will look at his piece of bread and his glass of water then look at what someone else has thinkin his was more. Then he would try to take it . He would gather a group of like minded individuals to help him. Soon they would control all the bread and water

Dave

LOL.. w/e Dave. There's always going to be bad apples. I guess you don't believe in Heaven either.
It's not meant to be an actual place, what Lennon said, but more of an ideal. A goal.
You could make the same argument for the Bible... and say...why bother with not killing your brother of neighbor...someone's going to do it eventually.

LOL.. I see where you are headed with this...
"He would gather a group of like minded individuals to help him. Soon they would control all the bread and water"
The only thing stoping a bad guy from trying to take all of my bread and water is a good guy with a gun.

I think I'll stick with Lennon...tyvm.

Forget it? FORGET IT?

Why . . . hmmmmm . . . what were we talking about?

Nope, my work is done here.
I saw a button and I pushed it.
/Troll

Not at all. My thinking is that , from the time man first knew he was different, he set out to acquire things. Actually this began before he knew hewas different . Animals are territorial . Willing to band together to control their area. Lennon meant well, as have numerous others before him, and it feels good to feel safe and content, but there are going to be disputes and some way to resolve them.

Brings to mind a neighbor of ours on the farm. ( yeah, I know I use this a lot, but it fits in a simplistic way) . These were good folks. I played ball with them at high school. But we each had pastures adjacent to each other. Their bull sometimes got into our pasture. Not good since he was a scraggly sucker and our was pure blood registered Hereferd. The neighbor wouldn't keep up his part of the fence. So we had to fence the whole boundary .

People want to protect what's theirs.

Dave

People want to protect what's theirs.

Well thats personal property <-- its to be expected.

NK however is trying to protect a (very old) political view at the expense of their own people. Let them prosper.

Back to my point.. it's an ideal.
It's one thing to put up fences to control animals....
So anyways.. you're saying what? That since there will always be bad eggs in the group... that Lennons idea was...flawed? wrong?

It's the difference between being a pessimist and an optimist.



That's why we have laws and debates and discussions. We don't need bombings and nukes and 30 clip guns and fisticuffs. You speak of mankind since a time when he knew he was different. Yes, different, able to think and reason.