#591305 - 03/08/1303:37 AMRe: Just f'n peachy.
[Re: carp]
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So far, carp, no one, but no one involved in any of the shenanigans from 2008 onwards has gone to jail. Not a single one of the multimillion pay-off suckers of our communal blood.
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#591315 - 03/08/1306:42 AMRe: Just f'n peachy.
[Re: carp]
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Aw, the data doesn't say this at all. In fact the data is a mish mash, as it figured the number of laws the states had. No indicating of what the laws were about and no indicating of causal effect.
Not only this, but the "researchers" said they were trying to show the results they got. Ths indicates to me that they configured the data to effect that result. They also got their data from the Brady Organization.
It smells to me.
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The problem is Eric Holder does not have the balls to prosecute these banks. Elizabeth Warren does.She has guts and stamina more than Holder will ever have.
#591330 - 03/08/1301:25 PMRe: Just f'n peachy.
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That's not what I said. I think the study they did is suspect.
It would be like a study that shows that 80% of traffic fatalities, drivers use of soft drinks or coffee was present. (I estimated the percent, but would guess it about right) Then conclude from this that caffeine causes driver impairment.
One can't throw a couple of sets of data together and then claim one affects the other. I believe they even indicated this in the link.
Dave
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#591368 - 03/09/1302:57 AMRe: Just f'n peachy.
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Right - well sorta.
The articles does state that more (detailed) data is needed . For example which laws were effective and which ones were not.
However the one true data that was used was a simple fact -> States that have more gun laws had fewer gun related deaths -vs- States that have liberal gun laws.
Sorta what Steve G said - just that single data point is enough said.
IMO; There should be a single source data base that all police departments report too, that is mandatory in every case . Some sort of an electronic file system or a check list .
Say a detective is call out to a new crime scene , he brings his department issued iPad selects new case and a checklist pops up - type of crime and weapon of choice - there would be check boxes that once check goes auto into a national data base.
This would show how many criminal gun deaths -vs- gun deaths by accident -vs- gun deaths by self defense . Not to mention gun deaths -vs- knife deaths and so on.
I know its a dream - but this day and age it is certainly possible but I don't see anyone working to that direction ? ?
#591375 - 03/09/1304:55 AMRe: Just f'n peachy.
[Re: carp]
MrB
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Well, of course it depends what is a gun law . This could easily be adjusted. Then the graphs would be skewed. That is the one data set that could be off.
Dave
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