I haven't even thought about this in the years I taught, working all hours of the night at home creating material for my students. I just assumed it belonged to me. I rarely ever used any school supplies in doing this.
It's enough the freaking school district owns our sweat . They own the results of that sweat also?
Same with the students?
Hmmph
Dave
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#590246 - 02/12/1305:53 PMRe: State owns student & teachers work
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carp
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"Works created by employees and/or students specifically for use by the Prince George's County Public School or a specific school or department within PGCPS, are properties of the Board of Education
Makes sense to me. Colleges have had that policy for a long time now.
#590261 - 02/12/1307:51 PMRe: State owns student & teachers work
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MrB
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I didn't see it any other place. But it was oneof those side bar links that are present on the news channel sites, so not a big media storm. I happened to see it there as I skimmed the news sites
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#590263 - 02/12/1308:03 PMRe: State owns student & teachers work
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carp
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Well it is simple.
If you used (schools) materials and school time (on or off time) - yes the school should get a cut.
Keywords being = school materials and or (made) for the school to use.
I remember a case where the UH of Hawaii sued a student over patents to the tune of 11 million bucks. This was bacause they could prove a student did creat a patent under school time (lab work) and with his professor education <- no school materials were used.
The court decided that the lab work = using the schools equipment was indeed schools (material) and thus sided with the school.
#590264 - 02/12/1308:14 PMRe: State owns student & teachers work
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MrB
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Though I created many materials to use in my classes, almost all of them could have been used by many math instructors. Many were quite effective, . I never attempted to profit from them.
There were materials available for use in mth classes created by other math instructors. I personally don't see why my district should claim ownership of material that was not required of me and that I created on my own time not at school, using no school resources.
In fact, I supplemented the supplies of the school out of my pocket. Numerous calculators and geometric instruments I purchased for my classes to use.
I gave a lot to that district. Back in fall of 1994, my personal 7200 Mac with personnel laser printer and CD burner was stolen out of my locked class room. The culprits knew exactly which room to rob as the two neighboring classrooms, accessible from my room , were not touched. One had a Mac classic in it. The culprits had a key to the building and a master key to the classrooms.
The police did nothing to apprehend the mutts nor did the school. In fact, I was shown the policy where the schools insurance had a $5,000 deductible. Which covered most of it . Not only that, I was pretty much told that it was my own fault for having my own computer at school. Figured they stole about $6,500 that Friday night. They also took a wonderful Sony Boombox and about 15 CDs of mine. Dave
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#590265 - 02/12/1308:21 PMRe: State owns student & teachers work
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MrB
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I could see that if the work was done at school whether during school time or before or after school time.
Materials created at home not using schools equipment I say doesn't belong to school even if the created materials were used at school. In fact, if the school used the teachers material they should pay the teacher. Now, I don't expect that to happen.
Dave
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#590278 - 02/13/1304:05 AMRe: State owns student & teachers work
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steveg
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Not unlike the issue of intellectual property and the results of contracted work on the corporate side. Who really owns it?
I got a letter from an attorney for the Ft. Lauderdale ad agency I worked for a few months after I had left to hang out my own shingle. This shop was paranoid a/b former employees, and they noticed that I had included work for a couple of their clients on my own website, and had listed them on my Clients page.
As a show of good faith, I offered to add an asterisk and mouse-type disclaimer stating that the work was on behalf of "another agency", but that since I was the author of that work, I had every right to include it in my online portfolio.
I never got a response, and I never added the disclaimers. Screw 'em!