#590275 - 02/13/1303:40 AMRe: State of the Union
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Really, Kate? I think it was one of the most impassioned and aggressive addresses I've ever seen. Will it move the needle among Repugnicans? Probably not much if at all. But he spoke from his heart to the Peoples' heart. And he spoke from a position of leadership.
I couldn't stay up and watch all the responses, and I was out of puke bags... so what did Rand Paul say?? Gawd I can't stand to hear him talk ! like nails on a chalkboard ! .. .
I thought BO was impassioned and inclusive... that's what the GOP always hits him on whether valid or not (partisanship) ... so last night I carefully listened to every word and he was VERY inclusive. I didn't count the "We's" but he included Congress in most of his please and in a working relationship not advisarial.
He really nailed them on the gun issue. That was an incredible climax.
#590313 - 02/13/1310:49 AMRe: State of the Union
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Paul's blather was a webcast. I started to watch it this morning, and not even a half minute in I decided not to suffer a fool and clicked off the page.
This business with the TP response is consistent with their overall attention-starved child-like behavior. Waaaa waaaa..... Look-a meeeeeee!
Finally got a chance to watch it. Google fact check State of the Union address. To say the least he stretched the truth in quite a few places. It was interesting reading the fact check sites before watching the address. Kind of gave it a different tone in my eyes.
I'm sure we're better off having him in office the last four years as compared to a Republican, he had quite a mess to clean up, but one thing I am disappointed in is the resuts of Obamacare. I thought this was supposed to bring health care and insurance costs down. Not true. Being self-employed I have to purchase my own health insurance. Three months ago it went up 15%. Health care costs won't be brought under control until someone has the nerve to address things like $20 Band-Aids, but that's another thread.
#590361 - 02/14/1310:20 AMRe: State of the Union
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True dat. He was wide of center on gas mileage improvement and some disclosure to Congress claims — and I'm not lovin' the drone thing one leetle bit. But, as you say, better him that some right wing megalomaniac in charge. And it was an outstanding speech.
On ACA, it'll still be a year and change — shortly after the law his been fully implemented — before you see real cost reductions. But costs are still high. Last sumer, I had a bizzar-o gout-like episode with my left foot. The ER bill and radiology and all that crap came to more than $1,600 for a one-hour out-patient visit. And that included a $60 charge for an air splint that retails for $13.50 online.
That said, my Medicare parts A, B, and D — and my AARP supplemental plan — start in two weeks, so I can stop getting gouged for the few times I need healthcare.
#590366 - 02/14/1310:48 AMRe: State of the Union
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I started my battle with cancer January f 2009 when I just had BC/BS which I paid for since I was 64. I had several CT scans.
I would get the statements from my hospital and from my insurance. The hospital would bill the insurance $800. The insurance would tell the hospital " we will pay $600. The hospital would then say, "we will accept that"
This happened several times.
Then in 2010 I goton Medacare.
Now the statements went like this. The hospital would bill Medacare now $1300. Medacare would then tell the hospital, "okay, we'll pay that $1300"
When this happened the first month I was on Medicare I compared it to the previous scan. When I was just in my insurance. I about died.
What a scam. Where is the freakin over site!
This wasn't even Obamacare at that time.
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#590367 - 02/14/1310:58 AMRe: State of the Union
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That's one of the goals built in to the ACA, to put an end to that kind of cost abuse. But that's not going to happen overnight either.
What blows my mind — in a good way — is the quarterly premium I'll be paying for Medicare (next year, when I enroll in SS, the premium will be deducted from that benefit). The quarterly for Parts A and B, plus the monthly for Part D, and the monthly supplemental plan combined are just a skosh more than half of what I was paying for Aetna coverage!
#590369 - 02/14/1311:47 AMRe: Update on my scan charges
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This is exactly what the insurance companies are doing before the Affordable Care Act restrictions begin at the end of this year. My Anthem Blue Cross went up $450/mo with fewer benifits and a higher deductible.
Thank your republican legislators that added lengthy time delays to the process to allow the insurnce companies to screw us all.
I need an x-ray of my foot last month. (hey Steve, what are the chances of that?) If I paid cash for it would cost $45, otherwise they bill the insurance company $150. How much would Anthem Blue Cross refuse to pay? I don't know but I'll find out soon when the bill comes.
California will be one of the first states to implement the federally funded exchanges, so hopefully there will be better & cheaper coverage for me to buy next year at this time.
#590370 - 02/14/1312:19 PMRe: Update on my scan charges
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Yup. The insurance companies are making like the USPS in reverse. Schtupping consumers now to pad their bottom lines before they have to take the ACA hit.
I don't know what your foot problem was, but they had to extract a tooth from my big toe because I stuck my foot in my mouth! Last month the dentist had to yank a hangnail outta my gums!
#590372 - 02/14/1303:08 PMRe: Update on my scan charges
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No it's not. F'rinstance, if you have a decent life insurance (or as they say it in the Mid West, "INsurance") policy, when you die, you collect enough money to last you the rest of your life!
#590379 - 02/14/1305:58 PMRe: Update on my scan charges
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Originally Posted By: yoyo52
Insurance is the greatest scam in the history of scams. All insurance.
Yep you be right.
At work we have this 3rd party insurance thingy for (term life) <-- to me the biggest rip off ever.
However; This insurer says (I find it hard to believe) that if you take a 10 or 20 year Term policy and quit your job or even cancel the policy - > they will give you back every penny in premiums you spent ? ? wtf ? sounds to good to be true.
Insurance is the greatest scam in the history of scams. All insurance.
And how BIG is it... well picture this... go to any big city and most of the big buildings - skyscrapers- are owned by 2 types of companies. Banks and Insurance companies... they're both making killings !!! I get as little insurance as I can... but we all are stuck getting some (life, car, house, health, etc), but I don't go overboard.