Mike
ZigMeister
Registered: 09/01/01
Posts: 2300
Loc: SW Illinois
I have never had a flu shot in my life, and I've never had the flu. And before you assume I live the life of a hermit and avoid any contact with humans (or similar), wrong! But I do take all the recommended precautions (e.g.: hand washing, etc.). A couple days ago I finally gave in to the constant warnings on TV, and the constant nagging by family members and got my first flu shot. This morning our paper reports they're running out of vaccine. Did you get your flu shot this year? They're calling it a serious epidemic in Chicago!
I always get a flu shot. I think that it is usually considered to be 62% effective and that is good enough odds for me. I haven't had the flu in maybe 10 years.
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Mr B. as you age, Please consider getting one... I know you don't live in a congested area. However, you're very vulnerable as you get older... most deaths are Srs and very young kids...
We DO NOT want to lose you to something that's highly preventable !!
(just watchin' your back, big guy !)
We always got ours free at CDC However now retired - this year we got them one day we were at WalMart. $25 !! and BC/BS paid for it, cost us $0 !!!
I got a flu shot this year for the first time. There was a drive through program sponsored by our hospital a while back. Got the shot without leaving my car.
And medicare paid for it.
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MacBozo
Nut Dood
Registered: 04/20/02
Posts: 16605
Loc: Pinellas Park, Florida
This is the first year in quite a few that I've missed getting a flu shot. Both my wife and daughter are required to have theirs since they are health care professionals, and my granddaughters have had their shots. I haven't had the flu in over 30 years. Once is quite enough, though. Hopefully, I'll get by this year without getting infected.
I've been getting one for the last few years, but then my immune system is strangely compromised (specifically prone to viruses). I got the swine flu a few years ago, and then the norovirus. Very happy to have some potential protection.
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carp
Dino's are Babe magnets
Registered: 04/19/02
Posts: 27013
Loc: Hawaii
I'm like you I never gotten sick in over 10 years . Except for this year which I got the stomach flu the day before new years. The shot would have not prevented that anyway ?
Starting from this year I am planing to get shots , mainly since my new gal works in retail (fine jewelry) so she is always touching other people hands . Be stupid not to get the shots.. Just waiting for one of the stores here who give out shots for dirt cheap like CVS Pharmacies.
My understanding is that the virus goes from host to host so many times and gets mutated that the inoculation is probably not effective for the for the way the strain has mutated.
Pirate
Old And In The Way
Registered: 02/21/07
Posts: 2149
Loc: Missouri
Never get flu shots,well I did once and that was the year I was the sickest with a virus than I had ever been....tried to get a shot this year but the VA said I should not.
Never get flu shots,well I did once and that was the year I was the sickest with a virus than I had ever been....tried to get a shot this year but the VA said I should not.
Vaccines only contain dead material from the virus, so they can't infect you. Your immune system kicks in to build antibodies against it and that is what makes you "feel" sick.. your body is not at 100%. The idea here is that if you get a shot and then right away (within a week or so) you get the flu, then it's because you already had the flu virus and your immune was getting hit by the vaccine too. Thus the double whammy. Either way, whatever the explanation, it happened to me also, and was quite ugly.
The influenza virus can go from humans to pigs to birds (ducks etc) and back. Usually between species it mutates or changes. Every 7 years or so there are significant changes, with major changes every 21 years. Another problem is there are many varieties and each year a few become dominant among humans. The CDC screens the dominate strains in the population and picks the top 3 to make the new vaccine each year (they're doing it for 2013 fall flu season as we speak). So a few years ago H1N1 was the biggie , now I think it's H2N5. Next year?? who knows? A minor flu outbreak like we have now can cost us about $20-25 billion in medical bills and lost business productivity. A major one even more ! So not only from a public health standpoint but just from the economics, you can see how important it is to keep this controlled. Your tax $ at work at CDC.
Where do they get their names? The H stands for hemagglutinin, and N - neuraminidase. These are 2 antigens (proteins) that are on the surface of the virus. Hemagglutinin causes RBCs to clump. Neuraminidase breaks down tissue chemicals and helps it to spread. The mutations constantly occur in these 2 antigens.
If you get vaccinated with H1N1, the antibodies you make will NOT protect you from H2N5 virus... this is why people should get a new shot each year... either the virus or the dominant strain changes and likely last years vaccine won't protect you if this happens (highly likely). IF you get vaccinated you make antibodies that attach to the H & N proteins and block attachment to your cells. IF the virus can't attach, they can't infect, and can't replicate to make you sick !
Historical fact: An estimated 20 million people died in the 5 years of WWI. In 1918 – 1919 there was a flu epidemic that killed 30-40 million people around the world. One of the largest pandemics in history. It rivaled the plague pandemics of the 1300s !! More people died of the flu those 2 years than in the 5 of WWI !!
BTW I love the drive through vaccination program (above).. gives new meaning to "drive by shotting" !!
I get one every year. I'm usually not a germ freak but last two times I went to the movie, before I left the theatre I went to the restroom and washed my hands really good before using my butt to open all the doors out and to my car. After going to my neighbors, I wash my hands cause she has two school age kids she has in and out.
I can hardly bear the thought of gut puking sickness stuff.
If there ever was a year to seriously consider getting the shot -- this is that year!!
SleeveTugger
Where's the cache?
Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 447
Loc: Minnesota
I've gotten the flu shot the past couple years, and am glad I did. With grandkids going to daycare, and an elderly Mom I figure it's the least I can do to try to help prevent the spread of illness. I do not want to get sick.
I had outpatient surgery on my eyes yesterday and the whole flu thing was really on my mind. I seriously considered cancelling the surgery. The other thing that weighed heavy on my mind was Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA). Getting a little paranoid in my old age I guess........*G*.
With you all the way on hand washing Kate. You really can't do it too often. Also very careful to never put my fingers near my eyes, nose or mouth unless very clean. So far so good.
They say if you get the shot your chance are about 62% that if you receive the flu it will be much weaker than not getting it.I have not gotten the shot either where I live you never really get the flu.
Nana
I mod in my sleep!
Registered: 12/02/05
Posts: 2321
Loc: US
Never had the flu or a flu shot. Matter of fact, eons ago, I had to leave college for a few weeks to come home to take care of my parents & 2 siblings because they all had the Hong Kong flu. Never caught it myself.
I have not had a cold, sore throat or the sniffles since 1968. I don't fix what ain't broken......