#588046 - 01/09/1303:43 AMRe: Aurora again
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steveg
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The idea of more guns in schools even in the hands of trained professionals is fakucked. Ask anyone in the military or law enforcement that's ever been in a firefight. The unpredictability of where bullets go; the skill of the so-called "good guy" under that kind of stress; the presence of panicked bystanders who could run right into the middle of a crossfire... The potential risk of even more death or injury is magnified.
Might LaPierre's hypothesis a/b good guys with guns prove true? Columbine and Virginia Tech are just two examples that prove that reality is not in his camp.
Let a responsible adult take a young child on a supervised hunting trip. Sure. Let a responsible adult take a child to a properly managed shooting range. Of course. Allow kids to participate in professionally run gun safety events. Excellent. But allow children and guns to be in close proximity to one another in schools, churches, and other civic/public venues. Absolutely NOT!
#588060 - 01/09/1308:16 AMRe: Aurora again
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yoyo52
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In today's local paper there was a story about the court proceedings involving James Holmes and the Aurora theater massacre. One bit of information that I may have heard before, but didn't register, is that the whole of the massacre took all of 27 seconds. I wonder what good it would have done to have had an armed officer in the place. Think about how long it would take for someone to react, to reach for a gun, undo the holster snap, bring up the gun, locate the shooter, and then aim the gun. The margin is 27 seconds.
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That's just the point sane people are making... 27 sec or 10 minutes... 1 armed guard can't prevent carnade if someone really wants it to happen.The only hope is to get high powerwed, mega clips and guns off the streets and reserve them for only the military and SWAT teams. WHat civilian needs them??
and these gun nuts who want an arsenal to protect them from the Federal Govt..... how did Waco and Ruby Ridge work out? they're insane !! We have drones now- don't need to send any humans in harms way !! Their little arsenal won't mean squat !! It's like bring a pea shooter to a fight with Navy Seals !!
#588064 - 01/09/1310:43 AMRe: Aurora again
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steveg
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Bingo. Reaction time can be fatal all by itself. And "... aim the gun..." is a huge factor. The nut with the AR only has to squeeze the trigger and pan the gun randomly, as opposed to taking another second or more to locate and line up on a single — and very likely moving — target.
#588079 - 01/09/1305:30 PMRe: Aurora again
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yoyo52
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On the Ed Show there's a teacher from Utah who says she will be carrying a gun to her classroom, that it's been legal to do so in Utah for a dozen years, and that she would not let parents know about it and feels that since it's a concealed weapons license, no one need know.
OK--start the response.
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#588082 - 01/09/1306:23 PMRe: Aurora again
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carp
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Well she has a license .
Anyway, I don't care if teachers pack some heat - only if the weapon is totally concealed and certainly there is (absolutely) no way a child can get their tiny hands on the weapon . There are way to many needless child shooting child deaths every year just because they got their hands on their parents guns.
As for telling the parent - certainly not. Thats the whole reason for having a license to carry a concealed weapon <-- nobody is supposed to know.
I can see it now that little Johnny farther, telling him that he better behave or else Mrs Diamond will blow his head off
she would not let parents know about it and feels that since it's a concealed weapons license
As for telling the parent - certainly not
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No need for the parents to know! They'll never find out. No one, absolutely no one, watches Ed's show besides yoyo and me and we won't tell parents. Other news persons who heard what Ed said won't tell the parents. So, she is okay. No one will know her secret. . . . . .