The actual shooting lasted less than 4 minutes. It was 10 minutes between 911 calls.

Thats the whole point (Kate) about being concealed <- no one is supposed to know - but tell the parents and I betcha in a week every kid in that school, would know about the new toy in the classroom to play with.

Yes I do agree at some point somewhere at sometime a teacher may aversely screw up and does revel that she/he is wearing a concealed weapon ? ? Bound to happen. Much like a crazy nut job thats bound to murder in a school.

So if no one knows, then what's the deterrent effect?

I saw that segment. The poor woman was totally out of her depth. I'm sure her heart is in the right place, but I suspect her head is somewhere dark and damp and permeated with right wing Muzak®.

Yeah, right, parent's don't need to know. Why? Because dollars to donuts, the majority would pull their kids out of that school in a NY minute! Guns are dangerous. They are instruments of death. Period. The sole purpose for their invention was to kill — wild game or human game. Sure, you could kill someone with a hammer. But the hammer is first and foremost a building tool. A gun is a killing tool, and probably not the smartest choice with which to drive nails.

Accidents happen. Thefts occur. Safeties fail. Magazines jam. There is no cogent or sane reason for those who shape our kids' minds to double as wannabe cops or commandos.

This whole more guns is the answer argument is like prescribing more cigarettes as a cure for lung cancer.

I'll stop here, because otherwise, I could go on ad nauseum about this madness.

Just watched a fox news segment where they were all screaming about the liberal teachings of their children and parents should do homework with their kids and ask about what they did in school that day. If they are suspect about anything, they should talk to the school to make sure the brain-washing stops. BUT, sure as sh*t, do not tell the parents the teacher has a gun!

Everything is so upside down and wrong side out.

Ahhh - there is NO deterrent effect , it is for personal protection . Consider that Columbine and that other school that had armed guards meant nothing to the killers either. So there ya go with personal protection.

Concealed is supposed to be incognito - if you let the parents know about the gun, it now becomes NO longer concealed. In fact the reveres may happen if there is a school shooting they can now say (where) was she with the gun that could have saved lives .

liberal teachings

Maybe a bigger smoking gun than the ones with a trigger ?

Fact;
Coworker who has his kids in a very expensive private school - that taught extreme anti-american government views , that has even disturb the parents , constantly. <-- not the school just a certain professor.

Anyway what is the line between Liberal ? ? one that educates for suicide bombing for their religion and society -vs- one that educates for the humanities ? Sorta a big mud puddle is it not? ?

It is not.

In what way does "educating" students about suicide bombing, or even about "extreme anti-american government views" even remotely come close to being confused with being "Liberal?"

In fact, being a Liberal in America is in many ways pretty much the antithesis of being anti-government. And it is *absolutely* nowhere near being pro-suicide-bombing. How on earth do you see that as being a big "mud puddle?"

IMHO, the professor you describe could easily (and in many ways, more likely) be characterized as being radically -- and I emphasize "radically"-- to the right.

Crazy is crazy, and it's on both sides of the spectrum.

If guns are not allowed, there is no deterrent effect. If concealed is allowed would just knowing that there might be resistance be a deterrent effect?

Suspecting but not knowing seems to be the problem with nuclear armament in the Middle East. I know, I know--not the same thing.