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#586154 - 11/27/12 02:57 AM Remove Filibuster ??
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Well there's "talk" of removing the filibuster because:
1. BO and the Dems were elected & given mandate to fix things.
2. GOP talking of same old tactics.- we'll see.
3. We'll repeat Term 1 if they file as many filibusters as before.
4. Something HAS to change - after all there WAS an election !! mad

Don't know if it'll happen- it's a pretty serious change but I wouldn't be surprised to see a compromise... i.e. keep filibuster but limited or after so long they vote !!
GOP might make a deal cause if they don't then, they're done in the Senate !!

What do you think ??

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#586194 - 11/28/12 10:42 AM Re: Remove Filibuster ?? [Re: DLC]
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I do not want to be naive how does the filibuster work? Thanks

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#586195 - 11/28/12 01:02 PM Re: Remove Filibuster ?? [Re: DLC]
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Well, I think we've had a couple threads here regarding the filibuster as it currently stands, and Rachel had a spot on this just a day or two ago.

In a nutshell: The filibuster was meant to be a risky, physically- and mentally-demanding, time-limited form of delaying legislation on the Senate floor.

Somehow* it has metastasized into a simple, consequence-free absolute veto power for the minority that can be used with impunity. Needless to say, this is a power never intended for the minority and imho is arguably unconstitutional.

So obviously I'm all for restoring the filibuster to the demanding and limited tactic it used to be.


* I still don't grok when and where this change happened, exactly. Up until this Congress I had assumed the filibuster to be in its former state and had been blaming the majority for simply caving at the threat of one. Apparently it's a hard-coded change, though, so apologies to the majority in this case =P

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Ah:

"In 1975, the Senate reduced the number of votes needed to invoke cloture to three-fifths (60) of Senate membership. At the same time, they made the filibuster "invisible" by requiring only that 41 Senators state that they intend to filibuster" -- About.com

Also: Ezra Klein on the history and constitutionality of the filibuster ... I'll have to see if the Supremes have ruled on this or not.


Edited by six_of_one (11/28/12 01:19 PM)
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#586196 - 11/28/12 01:11 PM Re: Remove Filibuster ?? [Re: musicalmarv7]
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Originally Posted By: musicalmarv7
I do not want to be naive how does the filibuster work? Thanks


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster
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#586197 - 11/28/12 01:52 PM Re: Remove Filibuster ?? [Re: musicalmarv7]
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Nor do you want to be proactive enough to Google it for yourself. smirk
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#586198 - 11/28/12 01:53 PM Re: Remove Filibuster ?? [Re: NucleusG4]
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Make sure he credits you on his term paper. grin
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#586200 - 11/28/12 08:42 PM Re: Remove Filibuster ?? [Re: steveg]
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Ah, give the guy a break, will ya. wink At least he admits what he doesn't know and asks for help. I didn't know what youtube was when it was first becoming a huge thing and you guys kept mentioning it, but someone here nicely filled me in.
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#586208 - 11/28/12 10:18 PM Re: Remove Filibuster ?? [Re: lanovami]
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Oh goody! A new hall monitor. Do I get detention now?
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#586228 - 11/29/12 10:40 AM Re: Remove Filibuster ?? [Re: lanovami]
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Registered: 03/14/10
Posts: 2850
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At least you understand where I am coming from. Thanks Some people do not want to I see this now.

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#586230 - 11/29/12 11:27 AM Re: Remove Filibuster ?? [Re: musicalmarv7]
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cry cry cry






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